Engineering Calculating a) and Baffled by b): A Math Challenge

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The discussion centers around a math challenge involving calculations related to elongation and Poisson's ratio. One participant successfully calculated elongation as 0.7mm but struggled with the second part of the problem due to a lack of information on cross-sectional area or diameter. Others contributed by clarifying that Poisson's ratio relates to strains rather than stresses and that the tensile load mentioned may be misleading. A solution was eventually reached, indicating that the yield strength corresponds to the applied force of 10kN, although this was not clearly stated in the original question. The conversation highlights the importance of precise wording in mathematical problems.
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Homework Statement
A cylindrical steel specimen 350mm long is to be subjected to a tensile load of 10KN. The modulus of elasticity is 207GPA, Yield Strength is 415 MPa, and Poisson's ratio is 0.30
Determine
a)The maximum elastic elongation
b)the reduction in diameter
Relevant Equations
stress = Force / Area
strain = Stress / Modulus of Elasticity
Poisson's ratio = transverse stress / longitudinal stress
I was able to calculate a), and got 0.7mm
But I have no idea where to even start with b)
 
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It's been awhile since done these types of calculations, but I believe you need cross sectional area. I assume that you have this information since you were able to calculate the elongation.
 
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scottdave said:
It's been awhile since done these types of calculations, but I believe you need cross sectional area. I assume that you have this information since you were able to calculate the elongation.
I was not given the area or the diameter, which is why I am having trouble with the question
 
Could it be percentage?
 
menotu3169 said:
I was not given the area or the diameter, which is why I am having trouble with the question
What formulas did you use to get the 0.7mm ?
 
Poisson's ratio is usually defined as the ratio of strains, not stresses (although this shouldn't matter if you're in the elastic regime). I think the tensile load of 10 kN that OP listed is a red herring. The yield strength and the elastic modulus allow you to calculate the maximum strain (elongation) of the material before plastic deformation sets in. This strain will be a percentage elongation which can be used to find a length (which the OP seems to have done correctly). The Poisson's ratio is then just the ratio of transverse strain to axial strain, with a negative sign out front because most materials shrink transversely when you pull them axially.
 
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Spoke with the professor and got the solution. Seems like it is just a poorly worded question. The question was worded exactly as I have it in the original post.
Solution:
A=10000/415=24.09 mm2
d=5.54 mm
change in length = 415/207000*350=0.7 mm
change in diameter = 415/207000*(-0.3)*5.54=-0.003 mm

This seems to indicate that the Yield Strength corresponds to the applied force of 10kN, which in my opinion is not obvious from the question.

Thanks everyone for all the help!
 
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