Calculating an expression for work in a magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on deriving a formula for work in a magnetic field, starting from the equation W = F * D and incorporating variables such as magnetic field strength (B), current (I), and length (L). Participants express confusion about the applicability of the B * I * L formula, particularly regarding its use outside of solenoids. There is a debate over the correct expression for work, with one participant suggesting an alternative approach using power equations. The conversation highlights discrepancies in derived formulas, leading to questions about potential math errors and the correct interpretation of variables. Overall, the participants are collaboratively working to clarify the derivation and ensure accuracy in their calculations.
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As shown, I must derive a formula to find work.

http://i.imgur.com/0U0eLqm.jpg

I proceeded as follows.

W= F * D
= (B * I * L) * D

V = BA/T

I = V/R
= (BA/t)/R
= BA/tR

F = B * (BA/tR) * A
W = ((B^2*A^2)/tR) * A
W = (B^2 * A^3)/tR

Does that seem right? IIRC, the B*I*L formula is only for solonoids?

Thanks
 
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I don't understand this

"F = B * (BA/tR) * A
W = ((B^2*A^2)/tR) * A
W = (B^2 * A^3)/tR

However consider Power = VI and work = power X time
I think you will get a similar ansawer
 
I solved L in terms of B, A, R and T, as the question doesn't allow me to use I. Only thing I'm confused about is if I can use V = B * I * L in this situation, as I thought that was for solonoids only.
 
What is L? I recall that Force = B X current X length of wire.
Think about it this way. V = dphi/dt and this is what you have.
Power = V^2/r

Work = power X Time, yes?
 
barryj said:
What is L? I recall that Force = B X current X length of wire.
Think about it this way. V = dphi/dt and this is what you have.
Power = V^2/r

Work = power X Time, yes?

((BA/t)^2 / r) * t gives me

(BA)^2 / tR, which is a different equation then the other one I got. So is mine wrong?
 
I got (BA)^2 / tR. In your post #1 you have an extra A. There might be a math error. Do you have the correct answer?
 
Unfortuantetly, I don't have an answer. I'll check it today. Thanks :)
 
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