Calculating angle between velocity and position vector

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angle between the velocity and position vectors of a particle. The initial approach led to an indeterminate form of 0/0, prompting a reevaluation of the conditions at the maximum distance from the origin. It was clarified that the magnitude of the velocity is not zero at this point, correcting the earlier assumption. The final conclusion reached is that at the maximum distance, the angle α between the velocity and position vectors is π/2. The solution is confirmed as correct, indicating a solid understanding of the problem.
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I took ## \frac { d\vec r}{dt} = 0 ## . This gives ##t_m = \frac { 1} {\sqrt{ 2}} ## ...(1)

To calculate ## \alpha ## ,

## \cos{ \alpha } = \frac { \vec v \cdot \vec r}{|\vec v||\vec r|} ## ...(2)

Then, magnitude of ##\vec v ## is 0 at t = ## t_m##.

So, R.H.S. of (2) becomes ## \frac { 0}0 ## . So, ##\alpha## could be anything between ## - \pi ## to ## \pi ## .Another approach was to put ## \cos{ \alpha } = \frac { \vec v \cdot \vec r}{|\vec v||\vec r|} ## as a function of t and then to reduce it and then solve it at ## t= t_m##. But, this led me into difficult calculation yielding again ## \frac { 0}0 ##. I don’t know why this approach should give a different answer, I just thought of it as some times, while solving for limit ,some factor gets canceled leading answer to non ## \frac { 0}0 ## form.
 

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Pushoam said:
I took ## \frac { d\vec r}{dt} = 0 ## .
Does this condition correspond to the particle being at its maximum distance from the origin?
 
TSny said:
Does this condition correspond to the particle being at its maximum distance from the origin?
Sorry, What I did was: ##\frac{ds}{dt} = 0## where s is the magnitude of displacement.
 
Pushoam said:
Sorry, What I did was: ##\frac{ds}{dt} = 0## where s is the magnitude of displacement.
OK
Pushoam said:
Then, magnitude of ##\vec v ## is 0 at t = ## t_m##.
How did you arrive at this statement?
 
TSny said:
OK
How did you arrive at this statement?
Sorry,
I calculated ## \frac { ds} {dt} = 0 ## .

Then, I got the thought that, for the distance between the origin and the system should be 0, ## \frac { d\vec r}{dt} = 0 ##, which is wrong.

I did not remain careful about the fact that ## \frac { ds} {dt} ## and ## \frac { d\vec r}{dt} ## represent two different physical quantities, that they mean different. This carelessness was the mistake.

Identified with the above thought, I took it for granted that ## |\vec v|= 0 ## at t = ## t_m ## .

## |\vec v| = \sqrt{ t^2 – t + \frac 1 {4 t}} e^{-t} ##

So, at t = ## t_m ## , ## \vec v \neq \vec 0, |\vec v|\neq 0 ##

## \vec v \cdot \vec r = 0 ##

So, at ## t = t_m , \alpha = \frac { \pi}2 ##

So, the answer is option (d).

Is this correct?So, at t = ## t_m ## , ## \vec v \neq \vec 0, |\vec v|\neq 0 ##

## \vec v \cdot \vec r = 0 ##

So, at ## t = t_m , \alpha = \frac { \pi}2 ##

So, the answer is option (d).

Is this correct?
 
Looks good.
 
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