Calculating Distance in Two Different Methods

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The discussion focuses on calculating the distance to Sirius using two methods based on its apparent and absolute magnitudes. The provided magnitudes for the Sun and Sirius are used in the formula M = m + 5 - 5logd to derive the distance in parsecs, which must then be converted to light-years. Participants clarify the relationship between stellar parallax and distance, emphasizing the importance of understanding logarithmic equations in these calculations. Additionally, they note that swapping the positions of the Sun and Sirius will not change their absolute magnitudes. The conversation highlights the nuances in using different formulas for distance calculations in astronomy.
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Homework Statement


Show that we can calculate the distance of Sirius from us (in Ly) from the above data by two different methods.

If the positions of the Sun and Sirius are interchanged, what will be the m and M values of each?

Sun: m = -26.4; M = +4.6
Sirius: m = -1.4; M = +1.4



Homework Equations


M = m + 5 - 5logd
I = L/4pi d^2
I₁/I₂ = L₁/L₂
(d₂/d₁)^2



The Attempt at a Solution


M = m + 5logd
1.4 = -1.4 + 5 - 5logd
1.4 + 1.4 = 5 - 5logd
2.8 = 5 - 5logd
2.8 - 5 = -5logd
-2.2 = -5logd
-2.2/-5 = logd
.44 = logd

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! :biggrin:
 
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The absolute magnitudes will stay the same. They are per definition the apparent magnitudes when the object is located at 10 parsecs. Use the formula to calculate the parallaxes for the sun and Sirius and then recalculate their apparent magnitudes when their positions are swopped.

Also the inverse of the stellar parallax (in seconds of arc - the required units for p in the formula) gives the distance to it in parsecs.
 
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Remember your laws of logs. a\log(b) = \log(b^a). Also the equation you are using will give the distance in parsecs so you will have to convert to lightyears.

For the second, what do you know about magnitudes and brightness?

Edit: Beaten to it I knew I shouldn't have made that coffee :wink:
 
What is somewhat confusing is that one sometimes sees the equation

M = m + 5 + 5\ \log(p)

and at another time

M = m + 5- 5\ \log(d)

this is due to the fact that the stellar parallax of a star and the distance to it in parsecs are related by

p = \frac{1}{d}

I was referring to the first in my previous post while you seem to know the second.
 
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