Calculating Energy for Full Sphere of Radius R

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy required to construct a full sphere of radius R with a density that varies as a*r. The user attempts to solve the problem using the formula for work done, integrating over spherical shells, but questions the correctness of their approach as their result does not match the expected solution. Another participant points out that the density varies, indicating that the mass must be integrated over the spherical shells rather than using a fixed volume formula. The conversation also touches on the forces involved, clarifying that the work is done against an electric field rather than a gravitational one. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly accounting for variable density in such calculations.
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Homework Statement



hello

the question is :
what is the energy needed to build a full sphere, radii R, and with density a*r

The Attempt at a Solution



i did it this way, i assum that i have a little ball radii r, and i want to bring an intificimal sphere width dr, and use W=Kq1dq2\r

so:
q1= (a*4PIr^4)\3
dq2=a*4PIr^3

and i intigrate it from 0 to R, and my solution equals to (4a^2PIR^7)\21

and it is not as the solution says...

am i doing it right?

thanks
 
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Hi en.yokhai! :smile:

(have a pi: π and try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
en.yokhai said:
q1= (a*4PIr^4)\3
dq2=a*4PIr^3

I don't think you can use 4/3 πr3 for q1

the density varies, so you have to integrate (over spherical shells) to find the mass. :wink:
 
en.yokhai said:

Homework Statement



hello

the question is :
what is the energy needed to build a full sphere, radii R, and with density a*r

The Attempt at a Solution



i did it this way, i assum that i have a little ball radii r, and i want to bring an intificimal sphere width dr, and use W=Kq1dq2\r

so:
q1= (a*4PIr^4)\3
dq2=a*4PIr^3

and i intigrate it from 0 to R, and my solution equals to (4a^2PIR^7)\21

and it is not as the solution says...

am i doing it right?

thanks

Sorry for being dense guys (my density varies somewhat too...). What is the force that this work is being done against? Electric field? Gravitational field? I don't quite get it from the problem as stated so far.
 
electric field, so the mass is not important...the charge is,namely the density
 
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