Calculating Final Velocity with Inelastic Equations

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final velocities of two objects involved in a partially elastic collision, specifically focusing on how to incorporate the coefficient of restitution and the effects of differing masses. The context includes theoretical and practical applications relevant to physics engines.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a problem in calculating final velocities during a head-on collision, noting the collision's elasticity.
  • Another participant suggests using the coefficient of restitution to aid in the calculations.
  • A question is raised about how the coefficient of restitution is applied and whether it changes with different masses of the objects involved.
  • Participants discuss difficulties in applying the coefficient to the momentum formula and seek clarification on the correct approach.
  • A reference to a Wikipedia page is made, indicating it contains a formula for final velocity that requires knowledge of the coefficient of restitution and initial velocities.
  • One participant expresses that they have resolved their confusion regarding the equations used, specifically correcting the expression for relative velocities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the application of the coefficient of restitution and its integration into momentum equations. There is no consensus on the correct method, as some participants are still seeking clarity.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the application of the coefficient of restitution in different scenarios, particularly concerning the effects of mass differences and the correct formulation of equations.

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Hey guys, I've been having a nasty problem in the construction of my physics engine, and it goes as follows.

When I have the mass and initial velocity of two objects (and Ill assume its a head on collision to simplify matters), how would you calculate the final velocity of both objects, when your given the fact that the collision is only a certain degree elastic, for example, one collision may only be 80% elastic, the other 20% of the energy is converted into heat.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Oh and after reviewing the Guidelines, should this be in the "Homework" type of area (even though it isn't related to schoolwork)?

If this is the wrong place, Ill move it as soon as I can figure out how.
 
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Well the coefficient of restitution would help...


[tex]e= \frac{v_2-v_1}{u_2-u_1}[/tex]
 
So how would I use this coefficient? And does it change or become altered if the masses of the objects is different? Ill try sub-ing it into a few equations and see if there's a viable solution. Thank you for you help.

EDIT: I'm still having difficulties. After subbing that coefficient into the momentum formula and simplifying, I cannot get a viable answer. Was placing it in the momentum formula the wrong step?
 
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Read down the wikipedia page for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_restitution" , it has a formula for the final velocity. But you'd need to knwo the value of the COF and the inital velocities.
 
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Ah okay, I've got it now.

Thank you for you help, I believe in my equations I had the system of equations as

V2 = CR(U2-U1) + V1

Where the in the brackets the It is actually (U1-U2).

Thanks
 
Yeah it's supposed to be U1-U2, my mistake,it's the ratio of the of the relative velocities.
 

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