Calculating Force in a Falling Man: An 88kg Example

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An 88 kg man drops from a height of 3.3 meters and reaches the water with a velocity of approximately 8.05 m/s. After hitting the water, he decelerates to rest in 0.58 seconds, resulting in a deceleration of about 13.8 m/s². The force exerted by the water on the man is calculated using the formula F = ma, yielding a force of approximately 1214 N. The initial calculation of force was incorrect due to an error in determining the impact velocity. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying kinematic equations to solve for velocity and acceleration in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



An 88 kg man drops from rest on a diving board 3.3m above the surface of the water and comes to rest 0.58 seconds after reaching the water.

Acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 m/s^s

What force does the water exert on the man? in N


Homework Equations



F = ma
a = v/t

The Attempt at a Solution



3.3/0.58 = 5.689655172 m/s = v

F = 88 * 5.689655172 = 500.6896552 N

F = 500.6896552 N

Did I do this right?
 
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First you need the speed he hit the water - you got this wrong
v^2 = u^2 + 2 a h
V^2 = 2 * g * 3.3 , v = 8.05m/s

Then the accelaration (rate of slowing down) in the water
V = u + a t,
so 0 = 8.05 - a * 0.58
a = 13.8 m/s^2

Then F = ma
 
missashley said:

Homework Statement



An 88 kg man drops from rest on a diving board 3.3m above the surface of the water and comes to rest 0.58 seconds after reaching the water.

Acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 m/s^s

What force does the water exert on the man? in N

Don't we need to know the force the diving board exerts on the man, too? http://www.turboconnection.com/pics/smilies/hmm.gif
 
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Never mind. He doesn't drop on to the diving board; he drops off the diving board and into the water.
 
Start with this equation to figure the speed he's at when he hits the water:

(1) a \Delta{x} = \frac{1}{2}(v^2-v_0^2)

Then use this equation to find his acceleraction (deceleration) when he's in the water:

(2) x=x_0+v t+\frac{1}{2}a t^2

Equation 2 can be simplified into terms of only velocity and acceleration by differentiating it with respect to time, as such:

(3) v=v_0+at

Then apply the definition of force:

(4) F=ma

That should do it.
 
mgb_phys said:
First you need the speed he hit the water - you got this wrong
v^2 = u^2 + 2 a h
V^2 = 2 * g * 3.3 , v = 8.05m/s

Then the accelaration (rate of slowing down) in the water
V = u + a t,
so 0 = 8.05 - a * 0.58
a = 13.8 m/s^2

Then F = ma

Wouldn't a = 4.667 because 8.05 * 0.58 = a

never mind 8.05 / .58 = 13.873
 
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Bill Foster said:
Start with this equation to figure the speed he's at when he hits the water:

(1) a \Delta{x} = \frac{1}{2}(v^2-v_0^2)

Then use this equation to find his acceleraction (deceleration) when he's in the water:

(2) x=x_0+v t+\frac{1}{2}a t^2

Equation 2 can be simplified into terms of only velocity and acceleration by differentiating it with respect to time, as such:

(3) v=v_0+at

Then apply the definition of force:

(4) F=ma

That should do it.

How do I find the velocity?
 
mgb_phys said:
First you need the speed he hit the water - you got this wrong
v^2 = u^2 + 2 a h
V^2 = 2 * g * 3.3 , v = 8.05m/s

Then the accelaration (rate of slowing down) in the water
V = u + a t,
so 0 = 8.05 - a * 0.58
a = 13.8 m/s^2

Then F = ma

yay i got it right! thanks a lot!
 
missashley said:
How do I find the velocity?

Use the first equation. You know a:

a=-g=-9.8\frac{m}{s^2}

You know initial velocity:

v_0=0

And you know the change in distance:

\Delta{x}=-3.3m

Actually, it should be

\Delta{y}=-3.3m

since we're vertical.

Solve for v.
 
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