Calculating Forces in Equilibrium for Suspended Sign

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The discussion focuses on calculating forces in equilibrium for a suspended sign and the rod supporting it. The sign weighs 580 N and is attached to an 80 N rod, with a cable making a 30° angle with the vertical. Initial calculations for tension in the cable yielded 381.1 N, but there was a correction needed regarding the center of mass (CM) of the sign, which affects torque calculations. The correct distance to the CM from the hinge must be determined to accurately compute the forces. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the CM in torque calculations for equilibrium problems.
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Homework Statement


A 580 N uniform rectangular sign 4.00 m wide and 3.00 m high is suspended from a horizontal, 6.00-m-long, uniform, 80-N rod as indicated in the figure below. The left end the rod is supported by a hinge and the right end is supported by a thin cable making a 30.0° angle with the vertical.
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(a) Find the tension, T, in the cable.
(b) Find the horizontal and vertical components of force exerted on the left end of the rod by the hinge. (Take up and to the right to be the positive directions.)

The Attempt at a Solution


a. (580N + 80N)(3.0m) = T cos(30) (6.0m)
T= (660N)(3.0m)/(6.0m cos 30)
T=381.1N

b. Tv=T cos 30
Tv=381.1 N cos 30
Tv=330.0 N up

Fv= Tv-W
Fv= -(330.0 N - 660 N)
Fv=330 N up

Th=T sin 30
Th=381.1 N sin 30
Th= 190.6 N to left (-190.6N)

Fh=190.6 to the right
 
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mandy9008 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


a. (580N + 80N)(3.0m) = T cos(30) (6.0m)


You made a mistake when calculating the torque from the sign. The distance of its CM is not 3 m from the hinge.

ehild
 
so it the full 6m?
 
No. Where is the CM of the sign? The weight of the sign, a vertical force, attacks at the CM. What is the distance of this vertical line from the hinge?

ehild
 
so the weight of the sign is 59.2kg
how does this come into play?
 
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