Calculating impedance in complex number and polar form

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This discussion focuses on calculating the overall impedance of two motors operating in parallel, specifically using complex number and polar forms. The first motor has a full load output of 2.8 kW with a power factor of 0.8 lagging, while the second motor has a full load output of 4.2 kW with a power factor of 0.75 lagging. The impedance can be derived using the power factor relationship, where R = |Z|cosφ and X = |Z|sinφ, allowing for the calculation of the jX portion of the impedance from the given power factors.

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Homework Statement


I have a motor with a full load output rating of 2.8 kW with an effciency off 70% and at 80% of full load runs with a Power Factor of 0.8 lagging.

A second motor has afull load output of 4.2kW with an effciency of 85% and at 80% of full load runs with a PF of 0.75 lagging.

They are fed by a generator which has an output resistance of 0.2 ohms and an output inductance of 1mH. 400volts.

I am stuck trying to answer - In complex number form and polar form calculate the overall impedance for the two motors in parallel. It appears to me that I have no value for the jX portion of the complex number so does that mean it is 0 or should I already know where this should have been calculated from. Our previous class examples have given values to calculate the inductive or capacitive values.

However our notes also state that a current lagging at phase angle to voltage then I in complex number form can be expressed as a - jb and v +j0. Where do a and b come from?

Now it may well be I am thick but I cannot see for the life of me where these missing pieces come from and no information I have read over the last 12 hours of study has enlightened me so some assistance would be gratefully received.

Many thanks in advance.

Dumbkiwi.





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Had I the information I seek I may well have supplied this bit.
 
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dumbkiwi said:
I have a motor with a full load output rating of 2.8 kW with an effciency off 70% and at 80% of full load runs with a Power Factor of 0.8 lagging.

A second motor has afull load output of 4.2kW with an effciency of 85% and at 80% of full load runs with a PF of 0.75 lagging.

It appears to me that I have no value for the jX portion of the complex number so does that mean it is 0 or should I already know where this should have been calculated from.

However our notes also state that a current lagging at phase angle to voltage then I in complex number form can be expressed as a - jb and v +j0. Where do a and b come from?

Hi dumbkiwi! :smile:

The "jX portion" (of R + jX) has been given to you, since you can work it out from the power factor.

The power factor is the cosφ in the polar form Z = |Z|cosφ + j|Z|sinφ.

In other words, R= |Z|cosφ, and X = |Z|sinφ. :wink:

(and be careful of the + or - sign for sinφ, which depends on whether the current or the voltage is lagging)
 
Hi Tiny Tim,

Ah ha - I was thinking that's all it could be but was finding it difficult to find confirmation but easy to pull my hair out.

Lets hope I can now get this kicked into touch.

Many thanks.

Regards Dumbkiwi.
 

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