Expressing motor loads in polar form

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around expressing motor load voltage and current in polar form within the context of an electrical engineering problem. The motor in question is a single-phase motor with specific power, efficiency, and power factor values, and the original poster is seeking clarity on how to express these loads as impedances in both polar and complex number forms.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the current and power based on the motor's specifications but expresses confusion regarding the proper form for expressing these values. Some participants provide definitions related to impedance and suggest formulas for expressing loads in polar form, while others engage in supportive dialogue without delving into specific solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering guidance on the definitions and formulas related to impedance. The original poster acknowledges the assistance but indicates a need for further time to process the information. There is also a side conversation about collaboration between peers facing similar challenges.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions spending considerable time on the problem and notes that their study materials are unclear, which may be contributing to their difficulty in progressing with the assignment.

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Homework Statement


I am having difficulty with a question on my Electrical course and the expressing a motor load voltage and current in polar form. The motor is single phase 2.8 KW efficiency 70% and 80% of full load runs with a power factor of 0.8 lagging. Voltage 400v.

Express the motor loads as impedances in polar and complex number forms assuming the motors are operating at 400v. This "express" has me baffled and have spent 4 hours trying to get past this bit of the problem. My notes are not clear on the form this should take and I am now stuck as it were.



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I have worked out that 80% of 2.8 Kw is 2.24kw which with a voltage of 400v gives a current of 7amps. With a power factor of 0.8 I get a Cos of 36.86 degrees. The current is lagging. If current is expressed as 7xCos38.86 is voltage then 400xCos38.86? My notes are not very clear on these two expressions and can't progress until I have this information.

Many thanks, Dumbkiwi.
 
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Hi dumbkiwi! Welcome to PF! :smile:
dumbkiwi said:
Express the motor loads as impedances in polar and complex number forms assuming the motors are operating at 400v. This "express" has me baffled and have spent 4 hours trying to get past this bit of the problem. My notes are not clear on the form this should take and I am now stuck as it were.

The impedance of a load (a combination of components) in an AC current is a complex number Z = R + jX where R is the resistance of the load and X is its reactance.

For a load for which the voltage leads the current by a phase angle φ:

Z = |Z|cosφ + j|Z|sinφ.​

Polar form is the form re, or in this case Z = |Z|e :wink:
 
Hi Tiny Tim,

Thanks for your reply, I think it will help but I am too tired to try and work through it just now but will post again when I have had time to look at.

Regards Dumbkiwi.
 
hello dumbkiwi,

Is that you Calum If it is I am struggling on this assignment too! fancy meeting up and putting our heads together?

salv
 
Hey Salv,

Yeah could do that. I'll send you a pm with my phone number.

See you soon mate.

Regards Callum.
 

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