Calculating Moment of Inertia for an Asymmetrical Barbell Shape

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for an asymmetrical barbell shape with two octagonal prism ends, one weighing 9 kg and the other 5.59 kg, connected by a massless boom. The center of gravity is determined to be approximately 0.77 meters from the 9 kg end, using torque balance equations. The participants suggest using empirical methods or CAD software like Pro-E to compute the moment of inertia accurately. The design is still in the conceptual phase, with no physical model built yet.

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I am trying to find the moment of inertia for an assymetrical barbell shape. The mass as one end of the 2 meter boom is 9kg and at the other is 5.59kg. The boom or rod is a balloon-like tube and I am going to assume it is massless. I am using this information to calculate thrust impulses for a satellite. Can you help? Thanks.
 
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Thanks for the reply,

The two halves are octogonal prisms with height 9" and a distance of 18" vertex to vertex. We are assuming for now that the mass is evenly distributed about the volume, because hardware hasn't been placed within it. However, the Icm will remain blanced for all angles about the axis of lowest inertia (that running lengthwise through the boom).

I could use the shape of a point masses or spherical masses separated by a massless rod, but I was curious about doing it as the actual shape. Any comments?
 
Is the thing built already?

If you can't calculate it, you should be able to empirically determine it (assuming it isn't too delicate).
 
Regular right octagonal prisms? (i.e., a volume swept out by vertically translating a regular octagon?)

Do you mean, the boom runs through the symmetry axes of the prisms, so the entire structure has a (eightfold) rotational symmetry about the boom axis?


correct on both of your comments, Ambitwistor

I will look into your suggestions as soon as I have time to get back to this. (School is busy right now)

enigma,

The satellite isn't built yet - still on the design board. In the future, we will find its inertial properties with a rigid boom and placed components.

thanks, for the ideas. If you have any more I'll check back.
 
The simplest thing to do- and it will probably be pretty accurate- is to assume that the two end masses are "point masses". That is, that their mass is concentrated at a point at the end of the barbell.

Let "x" be the distance from the 9 kg mass end to the center of gravity. Then there is a "torque" (twisting force) around the center of gravity of 9gx (g is the acceleration of gravity so that 9g is the weight). Since the boom has length two meters, the distance from the other, 5.59 kg mass, at the other end, to the center of gravity is 2- x meters. The torque around the center of gravity due to that weight is 5.59g(2-x). In order that the two "balance" (which is the whole point of "center of gravity"), we must have 5.59g(2-x)= 9gx. Of course, the "g"s cancel and we have 11.18- 5.59x= 9x so the equation is 14.59x= 11.18 or x= .77. The center of gravity is approximately 0.77 meters from the heavier 9 kg end.
 
You know, I think you can actually build the thing in Pro-E and have it compute the moment of inertia for you.
 

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