Calculating percentage change in volume at constant pressure.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the percentage change in volume of ethanol when heated from 0 to 100 degrees Celsius at constant pressure, using the coefficient of thermal expansion. The initial calculations yielded incorrect results, with one participant obtaining 20.86% instead of the expected 13.8%. Clarification on the units of the thermal expansion coefficient was sought, noting that the terms must be dimensionless. Participants emphasized the importance of correctly integrating the thermal expansion formula over the specified temperature range. Ultimately, the correct approach involves integrating the coefficient of thermal expansion to find the total fractional change in volume.
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Homework Statement



The coefficient of the thermal expansion of ethanol is given by:

\alpha (per degree Celsius) = 1.0414 x 10^(-3) + 1.5672 x 10^(-6) t + 5.148 X 10^(-8) t^2

Calculate the percentage change in volume when ethanol is heated from 0 to 100 (celsius) at constant pressure.

Homework Equations



alpha = (1/V)(partial(V)/(partial(T))(at constant P)

The Attempt at a Solution



I simply rearranged the above equation and integrated with limits T1 and T2:

delta(V) = (alpha/2)(100)^2 = 5.123..something but the answer is 13.8 %

Can someone also comment on the units of alpha? Its confusing because the units t and t^2 are included. From a mathematical point of view, we can't just add them..( or that's what i think at least).
 
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waqaszeb said:

Homework Statement



The coefficient of the thermal expansion of ethanol is given by:

\alpha (per degree Celsius) = 1.0414 x 10^(-3) + 1.5672 x 10^(-6) t + 5.148 X 10^(-8) t^2

Calculate the percentage change in volume when ethanol is heated from 0 to 100 (celsius) at constant pressure.

Homework Equations



alpha = (1/V)(partial(V)/(partial(T))(at constant P)

The Attempt at a Solution



I simply rearranged the above equation and integrated with limits T1 and T2:

delta(V) = (alpha/2)(100)^2 = 5.123..something but the answer is 13.8 %

Can someone also comment on the units of alpha? Its confusing because the units t and t^2 are included. From a mathematical point of view, we can't just add them..( or that's what i think at least).

You're wise to question units (dimensions). Too few people do that, including a former PhD boss of mine! Yet it's a very powerful way to check your computations as you go along.

The answer of course is that the t coefficient has units of K-1and the t2 coefficient has units of K-2. All terms must be dimensionless as is α.

Just out of curiosity, why did you use t instead of T in your expression for α?

You need to integrate to get ΔV/V over 0 to 100 deg C.
 
rude man said:
You're wise to question units (dimensions). Too few people do that, including a former PhD boss of mine! Yet it's a very powerful way to check your computations as you go along.

The answer of course is that the t coefficient has units of K-1and the t2 coefficient has units of K-2. All terms must be dimensionless as is α.

Just out of curiosity, why did you use t instead of T in your expression for α?

You need to integrate to get ΔV/V over 0 to 100 deg C.


Hey, thanks for you help! I got ΔV/V = (alpha)(T dt), which I integrated from 0 to 100. The answer I get now is 20.86..I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong..

As for the units of alpha..I don't know why its t and not T. This is a question from Chemical Thermodynamics by Peter A. Rock.
 
waqaszeb said:
Hey, thanks for you help! I got ΔV/V = (alpha)(T dt), which I integrated from 0 to 100. The answer I get now is 20.86..I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong..

I don't see your integral. What is it?

As for the units of alpha..I don't know why its t and not T. This is a question from Chemical Thermodynamics by Peter A. Rock.

I assume t is in Kelvin, not centigrade. Double-check this!
 
rude man said:
I don't see your integral. What is it?



I assume t is in Kelvin, not centigrade. Double-check this!

I integrated both (ΔV/V)= (alpha) dt [from 0 to 100] = alpha (100) = wrong answer
and (ΔV/V) = (alpha)(T) dt [ from 0 to 100) = alpha x 2 x ( 100^2 - 0^2 ) = 20.86

the answer in the back of my textbook says the answer is 13.8 %
 
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waqaszeb said:
I integrated both (ΔV/V)= (alpha) dt [from 0 to 100] = alpha (100) = wrong answer
the answer in the back of my textbook says the answer is 13.8 %

OK, I got the same answer (13.8%) if I assume t is in deg C.

You did right by setting ΔV/V = αΔt or, let's be sophisticated physicists, dV/V = αdt. I need to see your work step-by-step to see what the error was you made, because you took the right tack in integrating this equation.
 
Here's what I did:

dv/V = \alpha dt = \alpha T (100-0) [ after integration ] = \alpha (100-0) = \alpha (100) = 10.43 for me..

I added the three quantities of alpha and then multiplied by 100. I also multiplied each individual quantity to 100 and then added them together. the answer is still wrong..
 
waqaszeb said:
Here's what I did:

dv/V = \alpha dt = \alpha T (100-0) [ after integration ] = \alpha (100-0) = \alpha (100) = 10.43 for me..

I added the three quantities of alpha and then multiplied by 100. I also multiplied each individual quantity to 100 and then added them together. the answer is still wrong..

dV/V is a differential fractional increase in volume. You did not compute the total fractional change in volume.

And you did not integrate α(t)dt from 0 to 100C either.

Integrate both sides of this equation correctly & what do you get?
 
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Got it. Thank you so much!
 
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