Calculating Pressure at High Altitudes Using Air Density and Temperature

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To calculate atmospheric pressure at 11,000 m altitude with an air temperature of -56.5 °C and density of 0.364 kg/m³, the expression ρ = pM / RT can be used. An alternative method involves the equation dp/dy = -ρg, requiring integration of both dy and dT. The user expresses uncertainty about the molar mass of air at that altitude, which may hinder their calculations. They attempt to derive pressure using integration but encounter difficulties. A reference to the barometric formula is provided for further clarification.
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Homework Statement



At an altitude of 11,000 m, the air temperature is -56.5 °C and the air desity is 0.364 kg / m3. What is the pressure of the atmosphere at that altitude?

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



Ok. The problem gives the air density and using the expression ρ = p M / R T we can easily find the pressure. But suppose I want to find it by using the expression dp / dy = -ρ g, with ρ = p M / R T. In this case I would need to integrate both dy and dT. Am I right? And how could I do this? I've tried working on one attempt but it did'nt work. Maybe the reason is that I did'nt know the molar mass of the air in that altitude? (sorry my bad english). My work is shown below.

dp / dy = -ρ g
ρ = p M / R dT

dp = - (dy p M g / R dT)

- ∫dy M g = R ∫dT (∫dp / P)

Ln P1 / P0 = - (Δy M g) / ΔT

Finally,

P1 = P0 e - (Δy M g / R ΔT)
 
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kent davidge said:

Homework Statement



At an altitude of 11,000 m, the air temperature is -56.5 °C and the air desity is 0.364 kg / m3. What is the pressure of the atmosphere at that altitude?

Homework Equations



no equations found

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok. The problem gives the air density and using the expression ρ = p M / R T we can easily find the pressure. But suppose I want to find it by using the expression dp / dy = -ρ g, with ρ = p M / R T. In this case I would need to integrate both dy and dT. Am I right? And how could I do this? I've tried working on one attempt but it did'nt work. Maybe the reason is that I did'nt know the molar mass of the air in that altitude? (sorry my bad english). My work is shown below.

dp / dy = -ρ g
ρ = p M / R dT

dp = - (dy p M g / R dT)

- ∫dy M g = R ∫dT (∫dp / P)

Ln P1 / P0 = - (Δy M g) / ΔT

Finally,

P1 = P0 e - (Δy M g / R ΔT)
You might want to compare your model of the Earth's atmosphere with this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometric_formula
 
Oh thanks. It was useful to me.
 
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