Calculating Spring Stretch in Aircraft Carrier Landing

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The discussion revolves around calculating the spring stretch required to stop a 16,000 kg F-18 landing at 52 m/s on an aircraft carrier. Participants emphasize the importance of using conservation of energy principles, equating kinetic energy and spring potential energy to solve the problem. The relevant equations are identified as KE=1/2mv² and Us=1/2k(deltaX)². One participant successfully calculates the spring stretch distance as 26.85 meters after clarifying the approach. The conversation highlights the need for proper methodology in physics problems involving variable forces.
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A 16,000 kg F-18 (jet fighter) lands at 52 m/s on an aircraft carrier, its tail hook snags the cable to slow it down. The cable is attached to a spring with a spring constant of 60,000 N/m. How far does the spring stretch to stop the jet?

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f=-ks
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too hard to put on computer
 
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jjd101 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


too hard to put on computer

No effort, no help!
 
i tried a lot of different things, all the methods i tried didn't seem to work because it doesn't give neither time nor distance.
 
Show us what you tried, so we can do a better job helping you.
 
i tried taking the velocity V=m/s and setting V=deltaX/deltaT. Then i solved delta T and got deltaT=deltaX/V. I then tried substituting this into the first motion equation vf=vi+adeltaT and solving for a, then used a in another motion equation V^2 = Vi^2 +2adeltaX after all this i think i got a =36.75 and t = 1.415 which i don't think is right
 
jjd101 said:
i tried taking the velocity V=m/s and setting V=deltaX/deltaT. Then i solved delta T and got deltaT=deltaX/V. I then tried substituting this into the first motion equation vf=vi+adeltaT and solving for a, then used a in another motion equation V^2 = Vi^2 +2adeltaX after all this i think i got a =36.75 and t = 1.415 which i don't think is right

You're right, it's not right :smile:

As a spring stretches, the force it supplies increases. If the force is changing with distance, then so is the acceleration. If they are not constant, then you can't apply the 'usual' kinematic formulas that assume constant force or acceleration.

Problems involving springs are often best approached from a conservation of energy point of view. Kinetic and potential energy get exchanged via the spring. Do you have the formulas for kinetic energy and spring potential energy?
 
KE=1/2mv2 and Us=1/2k(deltaX)^2 correct? so do i set these equal to each other?
 
jjd101 said:
KE=1/2mv2 and Us=1/2k(deltaX)^2 correct? so do i set these equal to each other?

Yes, you'll be setting them equal to each other. Do you know why?
 
yeah i understand now, i just have trouble figuring out what equations to use. I just did it and i got distance is 26.85m. Thanks a lot i really appreciate it
 
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