Calculating the Average Throw in Backgammon: A Math Problem | Homework Statement

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average throw in backgammon using two dice, considering that doubles count double. The initial calculation provided results in an average of 8.17, which seems high to the poster. A participant points out that the original calculation likely omitted a count for a throw of 12. They explain that the average of a single throw of two dice is 7, and accounting for doubles increases the average to 8.17, confirming the original calculation's accuracy. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly accounting for all possible outcomes in the average calculation.
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Hi

I am trying to find the average of a throw in backgammon with two dice. Recall that two dice with the same amount of eyes (is that how one say it in English?) count double. What I have is

<br /> \frac{{2 \cdot 3 + 3 \cdot 4 + 4 \cdot 5 + 4 \cdot 6 + 6 \cdot 7 + 5 \cdot 8 + 4 \cdot 9 + 2 \cdot 10 + 2 \cdot 11 + 1 \cdot 16 + 1 \cdot 20 + 1 \cdot 24}}{{36}}<br />

The integer to the right of the multiplication-sign is the throw, and the integer to the left is the different ways of achieving it. I get 8.17

Can you confirm my answer? It seems high :confused:
 
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Homework Statement


Hi

I am trying to find the average of a throw in backgammon with two dice. Recall that two dice with the same amount of eyes (is that how one say it in English?) count double. What I have is

<br /> \frac{{2 \cdot 3 + 3 \cdot 4 + 4 \cdot 5 + 4 \cdot 6 + 6 \cdot 7 + 5 \cdot 8 + 4 \cdot 9 + 2 \cdot 10 + 2 \cdot 11 + 1 \cdot 16 + 1 \cdot 20 + 1 \cdot 24}}{{36}}<br />

The integer to the right of the multiplication-sign is the throw, and the integer to the left is the different ways of achieving it. I get 8.17

Can you confirm my answer? It seems high :confused:

Well...I think you probably didn't copy your counts right, because your answer is right, but doesn't equal what you wrote above. (It's missing a 12).

But think of it this way. If you just threw two dice and took the average, it would be 7, right? So now 1/6 of the time, you get twice as much. So your new average should be 7 + (1/6)7 = 8.17.
 
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