Calculating the Compression Distance in an Inelastic Collision with a Spring

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The problem involves calculating the compression distance of a spring during an inelastic collision between a ball of clay and a block on a frictionless table. The scenario includes specific masses, initial velocity, and spring constant values.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the work-energy principle by equating kinetic energy and work done on the spring, but encounters an incorrect result. Some participants suggest using conservation of momentum for the collision phase before applying energy considerations.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some guidance provided on separating the collision and energy phases. The original poster has indicated progress in their understanding, leading to a correct answer.

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The discussion reflects a common challenge in distinguishing between inelastic collision dynamics and energy conservation principles in spring systems. The original poster's calculations initially led to an incorrect result, prompting further exploration of the problem setup.

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A ball of clay of mass m = 0.5 kg strikes a block of mass M = 8.0 kg which slides on a frictionless table as it compresses a spring with spring constant k = 60 N/m. The initial speed of the ball of clay is v = 12 m/s. The spring is initially at its relaxed length.



W= delta K = 1/2mv^2
W = 1/2kx^2
These are the equations I tried using.




I tried setting delta K equal to the Work but the answer it gave me was too big. I got 4.5 m as my answer and it's wrong. Can someone show me how to do this problem step by step?
 
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dancing123 said:
I tried setting delta K equal to the Work but the answer it gave me was too big. I got 4.5 m as my answer and it's wrong.

Show us your full calculations, and then we'll see what went wrong, and we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
Hi! Thank you for helping me. :)

This is what I tried to do:
W = 1/2kx^2
K = 1/2mv^2

1/2kx^2 = 1/2(m+M)v^2
x^2 = [(m+M)v^2]/k
x = sqrt{[(m+M)v^2]/k}
x = sqrt{[(0.5+8.0)12^2]/60}
x = 4.5166 m
 
ah, you have to split the problem into two parts …

the first is an inelastic collision so there's no conservation of energy, instead you use conservation of momentum to find the speed immediately after the collision …

from that time on, you can use energy :smile:
 
Sorry I got back to you so late but thank you so much. I was able to figure it out :) My answer turned out to be 0.266 m, which was the correct answer.
 

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