Calculating the force resulted by pressure (integral)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force exerted by a pressure gauge piston submerged in water, utilizing the spring constant of 1250 N/m and a piston diameter of 1.20 cm. The key equations involved include F = kx for force and dF = pressure dA, where pressure is defined as density multiplied by height and gravity. The user, Sakonpure6, seeks clarification on integrating pressure with respect to depth and the relationship between the piston area and depth changes. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding Pascal's Law and the implications of pressure changes with depth.

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Homework Statement


" A spring of the pressure gauge shown below has a force constant of 1250 N/m , and the piston has a diameter of 1.20 cm. AS the gauge is lowered into the water in a lake, what change in depth causes the piston to move by 0.750 cm? "

Homework Equations


F = kx
dF = pressure dA
pressure = density * height * gravity

The Attempt at a Solution


My first concern is my approach at integration the correct method? Is there an easier way?

Well, I know that the force to be applied is : F = xk = 9.375 N and this force is due to the continually increasing pressure as the piston is dropped into the lake.

Thus I need to be evaluating for the upper limit of the integral

Since dF = pressure dA ,
F = ∫ pressure dA
= ∫ ρ * g * h dA
= ∫ ρ * g * (H-y) dA

I get stuck here, I know I need to integrate with respect to y. What is the relationship between dA and dy? Also why are we given the diameter of the piston.

I have attached a copy of my written work.

Any help is really appreciated, thank you for your time.

-Sakonpure6

http://imgur.com/LOU5cKR
 
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Why do you think integration is the key to solving this problem?
Does the piston in the pressure gauge change in diameter with change in depth?
Pressure increases due to what variable or variables as the gauge is lowered in the water?
Are you familiar with Pascal's Law?
 
My thought to using integration is that the force applied to the piston changes as the depth changes.

Pressure would change as the area changes correct?

Pascals Law is A1F2=A2F1 , but we are not given enough data to calculate area.

So how do you propose solving this?
 
You're still confused.
You are given the diameter of the piston. You can't calculate an area from that?
Why do you think the area of the piston in the gauge changes as the gauge goes deeper in the water?

You are also misinterpreting what Pascal's Law states:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_law
 

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