Calculating the magnitude of an electric field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of the electric field in a parallel plate capacitor, given an electron's trajectory. The electron enters with a horizontal velocity of 7*10^6 m/s and exits at the upper right side after traveling through a 2 cm long capacitor with a 0.15 m separation between plates. The correct electric field magnitude is determined to be approximately 2.09*10^5 N/C. Participants clarify that the electron's path is parabolic due to constant horizontal velocity and vertical acceleration, emphasizing that the initial velocity is entirely horizontal. The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of understanding the problem's dynamics.
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Homework Statement


An electron enters the lower left side of a parallel plate capacitor and exits precisely at the upper right side (just clearing the upper plate). The initial velocity of the electron is 7*10^6m/s parallel to the plates. The capacitor is 2cm long and its plates are separated by 0.15m. Assume that the electric field is uniform at every point between the plates and find its magnitude.
THE ANSWER IS = 2.09*10^5N/C
Don't mind my weak attempt at diagram.

Homework Equations


U(y-direction) = U(x-direction)*tanΦ
F=ma=qE
x=U(x-direction)t
y=U(y-direction)+½at2

The Attempt at a Solution


tanθ=0.15/0.02=7.5
U(x-direction)= 7*106m/s
U(y-direction)= U(x-direction)*tanΦ= 7.6*106*7.5=5.25*107m/s
x=2cm=0.02m, y=0.15m
x=U(x-direction)*t
0.02 = 7*106*t
t = 2.86*10-9s
y = U(y-direction)+½at
0.15 = 5.25*107*2.86*10-9 + ½(2.86*10-9)2a
0.15=0.15015 + 4.0898*10-18a
a= 3.668*1013ms-2
F = ma = qE
= 9.11*10-31 * 3.668*1013 = qE
⇒ 1.6*10-19 * E = 3.3415*10-17
E=208.85NC-1
 

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I would guess you don't need any angle since the initial direction is parallel to plate and that component of velocity will not change. You just use it to get Δt which can then be used to determine acceleration perpendicular to plate.
 
The problem statement says:
Haddon said:
The initial velocity of the electron is 7*10^6m/s parallel to the plates.
(my emphasis on the direction). Why have you assigned a y-component to the initial velocity?

Your diagram showing a diagonal trajectory does not make sense. The electron will be accelerating in the y-direction, remaining at constant velocity in the x-direction (no forces acting that way). So the path will be parabolic in form.
 
gneill said:
The problem statement says:

(my emphasis on the direction). Why have you assigned a y-component to the initial velocity?

Your diagram showing a diagonal trajectory does not make sense. The electron will be accelerating in the y-direction, remaining at constant velocity in the x-direction (no forces acting that way). So the path will be parabolic in form.

But the electron entered at the lower left side and exited at the upper right side of the capacitor.. That's from the question. So, I thought it's path should be diagonal.
 
neilparker62 said:
I would guess you don't need any angle since the initial direction is parallel to plate and that component of velocity will not change. You just use it to get Δt which can then be used to determine acceleration perpendicular to plate.
I think I did that.. from my solution but are you insinuating I use the same velocity?
 
Haddon said:
But the electron entered at the lower left side and exited at the upper right side of the capacitor.. That's from the question. So, I thought it's path should be diagonal.

Its path is a curve, but INITIALLY the velocity is horizontal and the U in those equations is INITIAL velocity.

The idea is the same as throwing a ball horizontally off a cliff. Initial velocity is all horizontal. In a ball off a cliff, gravity acts on one component but not the other, so the equations you use for one component are accelerated and the equations for the other component use a = 0.
 
Haddon said:
But the electron entered at the lower left side and exited at the upper right side of the capacitor.. That's from the question. So, I thought it's path should be diagonal.
No. It'll be parabolic, like a thrown stone in a uniform gravitational field.
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gneill said:
No. It'll be parabolic, like a thrown stone in a uniform gravitational field.
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No. It'll be parabolic, like a thrown stone in a uniform gravitational field.
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I'm sincerely grateful. I get it now
 
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I'm sincerely grateful. I get it now
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