Calculating Value of "a" for Independent X,Y Variables

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The discussion focuses on determining the value of 'a' that ensures the independence of the X and Y variables in the given probability function. The key point is that for X and Y to be independent, the joint probability function must factor into separate functions of m and n. Participants suggest using different symbols to avoid confusion and emphasize the need to manipulate the denominator to achieve this factorization. A hint is provided to consider how to choose 'a' for a simplified function to facilitate the factorization process. Overall, the goal is to find a suitable value of 'a' that meets these criteria.
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we have X,Y variables and we have f(m,n)=P(X=m,Y=n)=C*((1/(a*m*n+15*m+11*n+8))^2)
for what value of a X,Y are indepedent? ( its not necessary to calculate C)

i know that f(m,n)=f(m)*f(n) if X,Y are independent but how i am going to use this for calculate a?
 
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ParisSpart said:
we have X,Y variables and we have f(m,n)=P(X=m,Y=n)=C*((1/(a*m*n+15*m+11*n+8))^2)
for what value of a X,Y are indepedent? ( its not necessary to calculate C)

i know that f(m,n)=f(m)*f(n) if X,Y are independent but how i am going to use this for calculate a?

Never write what you did: you are using the same symbol (f) to mean three different things in the same problem. Use three different names, such as f(m,n) = g(m) * h(n).

Anyway, you need to find a value of 'a' that makes the denominator factor into a function of n alone times a factor of m alone.
 
i will estimate (a*m*n+15*m+11*n+8)^2) ? if i will do it i find 10 terms
 
Parispart, follow the advice
Ray Vickson said:
you need to find a value of 'a' that makes the denominator factor into a function of n alone times a factor of m alone.
 
i understand that i have to find a factor of n times a factor of n but i try to think how to do it using the 'a'
 
ParisSpart said:
i understand that i have to find a factor of n times a factor of n but i try to think how to do it using the 'a'
When you have found a, what do you think the factors will look like, in general terms? Can you write a generic form for those factors, using some other unknown constants?
 
Hi ParisSpart! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)
ParisSpart said:
i understand that i have to find a factor of n times a factor of n but i try to think how to do it using the 'a'

Hint: if it was 1/(amn + m + n + 1)2,

how would you choose a so you could factor that? :wink:

(and what would the factors be?)
 
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