Calculating Velocity in a Charge/Field Interaction: A Homework Challenge

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The discussion focuses on calculating the velocity of ships interacting through electric fields and forces. Participants explore the relationship between potential and kinetic energy, emphasizing that potential energy transforms into kinetic energy as the ships separate. The total potential energy of the system is expressed as U(total) = 3*kq^2/D, and it is clarified that this energy will be divided among the ships. A participant questions whether multiplying by three is necessary if the charges and distance are the same, leading to a consensus that it is acceptable with proper justification. Overall, the conversation provides guidance on applying conservation laws to solve for velocity in this charge-field interaction scenario.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F=kqQ/D^2=Ma
E=kQ/D^2
D=vt?

The Attempt at a Solution


So far, I've been able to label the forces on each ship through superposition. But that is all I currently able to understand. I know that my end solution is a speed/velocity, but I am not sure how to get there with the given (Q, t, D, and M)

Any help and direction would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Have you considered a conservation law approach?
 
I have not because we haven't discussed it. How might I use said approach?
 
Callix said:
I have not because we haven't discussed it. How might I use said approach?
Usually one considers the trade off between potential and kinetic energy. What form of potential energy is involved here?
 
gneill said:
Usually one considers the trade off between potential and kinetic energy. What form of potential energy is involved here?

There is definitely potential energy between each ship.
 
Callix said:
There is definitely potential energy between each ship.
Yes... what type and how much?
 
gneill said:
Yes... what type and how much?

Electrical Potential Energy
U12=kq1q2/D
U23=kq2q3/D
U13=kq1q3/D
 
What's the total PE of the system in terms of the variables that you were given?
 
U(total) = 3* kq^2/D, right?
 
  • #10
Callix said:
U(total) = 3* kq^2/D, right?
Looks good.

So how will that change as the ships all tend towards infinite separation? Where will it go?
 
  • #11
gneill said:
Looks good.

So how will that change as the ships all tend towards infinite separation? Where will it go?

All the potential will simply turn into kinetic energy right?
 
  • #12
Callix said:
All the potential will simply turn into kinetic energy right?
That's right.
 
  • #13
gneill said:
That's right.

Alright, so then 3* kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2 and just solve for v
 
  • #14
Callix said:
Alright, so then 3* kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2 and just solve for v
Remember that the energy will be split three ways.
 
  • #15
gneill said:
Remember that the energy will be split three ways.

So is the multiplying by 3 completely necessary if the charges and D are the same? Couldn't I just solve it as kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2
 
  • #16
Callix said:
So is the multiplying by 3 completely necessary if the charges and D are the same? Couldn't I just solve it as kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2
Sure. In your presented solution be sure to state why you are justified in doing it.
 
  • #17
gneill said:
Sure. In your presented solution be sure to state why you are justified in doing it.

Ah okay, I understand now! Thank you very much! :)
 
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