CALCULUS, EXTREME VALUES of function on interval and where they occur

No, you can't use the sine chart because you don't have the correct derivative.Am i correct?? did i perform the steps right? ThanksYes, you have the correct derivative now. But, you need to find where it is 0 and where it does not exist and then check the original function at those points. You should find a max and a min.In summary, we discussed finding extreme values of a function on a given interval and how to determine where they occur. We used the first derivative test and the quotient rule to find the critical points and then checked the original function at those points to determine the extreme values.
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CALCULUS, EXTREME VALUES of function on interval and where they occur!

find the extreme value of function on the interval and where they occur.
Please Help, teacher did during class but didnt get explanation.

1. y=cos(x-(pi/4)) , at the interval of [0,7pi/4]
My attempt: y'= -sin (x-(pi/4))
y= pi/4, 5pi/4

f(0)= -1/sqrt(2) f(7pi/4)= 0 f(pi/4)= 0 f(5pi/4)=-1
Max of 1 @ x=pi/4
Min of -1 at x=5pi/4
teacher said f(0) was wrong i don't know why

2. y= 4x/(x^2+1)
My attempt: y'= -4x/(x^2+1)^2
f(0)=0
Max of 0 at x=0
dont know why i got that wrong

tnx a lot
 
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For f(0) it's -sin(-pi/4) = - (-sqrt2 / 2) = sqrt2 / 2 = 1/sqrt2
Could you show your work for how you got f'(x) for #2?
 
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murmillo said:
For f(0) it's -sin(-pi/4) = - (-sqrt2 / 2) = sqrt2 / 2 = 1/sqrt2
Could you show your work for how you got f'(x) for #2?

For f(0) the negitive of sin is later added onto -1/sqrt(2) right? making it positive? ok i see what i did.
y= 4x(x^2+1)^-1
y'=-4x(x^2+1)^-2

oh ... shoot i was supposed to use quotient rule right?

thanks a lot i kind of get calculus a little bit more
 
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For #1, when you say f(0), you mean f(0)=cos(0-(pi/4))? Or f'(0)?

For #2, you're supposed to use the quotient rule.
 
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yes, i mean the cos one not f'(0)
when you are looking for critical points you plug in 0 of f(0) into the original/position equation right? i think i did that right just forgot about the pos/neg stuff
 
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golf747 said:
find the extreme value of function on the interval and where they occur.
Please Help, teacher did during class but didnt get explanation.

1. y=cos(x-(pi/4)) , at the interval of [0,7pi/4]
My attempt: y'= -sin (x-(pi/4))
y= pi/4, 5pi/4
You mean x, not y.

f(0)= -1/sqrt(2) f(7pi/4)= 0 f(pi/4)= 0 f(5pi/4)=-1
Max of 1 @ x=pi/4
Min of -1 at x=5pi/4
teacher said f(0) was wrong i don't know why
f(0)= cos(-pi/4)= cos(pi/4)= 1/sqrt(2). Cosine is an even function.

2. y= 4x/(x^2+1)
My attempt: y'= -4x/(x^2+1)^2
f(0)=0
Max of 0 at x=0
dont know why i got that wrong

tnx a lot
What interval was this on? The entire real line? A continuous function does not necessarily have a max or min on such an interval. Here, it should be clear that y is positive for positive x so 0 cannot be a maximum. In any case, you have the derivative wrong. Try it again.
 
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ok. i think i got #2 down.

2. y'= 4(x^2+1) - 4x(x)
________________
(x^2+1)^2

= 4x^2+4-8x^2
_______________
(x^2+1)^2

0 is only critical pt?
f(0) = 0

sine chart for 0
-2 = neg and 2 = neg so... no extreme values??
 
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golf747 said:
ok. i think i got #2 down.

2. y'= 4(x^2+1) - 4x(x)
________________
(x^2+1)^2

= 4x^2+4-8x^2
_______________
(x^2+1)^2

0 is only critical pt?
f(0) = 0

sine chart for 0
-2 = neg and 2 = neg so... no extreme values??

Am i correct?? did i perform the steps right? Thanks
 
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How is it that x = 0 is a critical point?

The derivative looks OK now.
 
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golf747 said:
ok. i think i got #2 down.

2. y'= 4(x^2+1) - 4x(x)
________________
(x^2+1)^2

= 4x^2+4-8x^2
_______________
(x^2+1)^2

0 is only critical pt?
f(0) = 0
No, 0 is not a critical point. f'(0) exists and is not 0. The numerator of the derivative is [itex]4- 4x^2[/itex] which is 0 at x= 1 and x= -1. The denominator is never 0.


sine chart for 0
-2 = neg and 2 = neg so... no extreme values??
You mean "sign", not "sine".
 

What is calculus?

Calculus is a branch of mathematics that deals with the study of change and motion. It involves the use of mathematical tools and techniques to analyze and solve problems related to rates of change, finding maximum and minimum values, and determining the behavior of functions.

What are extreme values of a function?

The extreme values of a function refer to the maximum and minimum values that a function can attain. These are the highest and lowest points on a graph of a function, also known as peaks and valleys. They represent the most extreme or significant values of a function on a specific interval.

How do you find the extreme values of a function on an interval?

To find the extreme values of a function on an interval, you first need to find the critical points of the function. These are the points where the derivative of the function is equal to zero or does not exist. Then, you can use the first or second derivative test to determine whether the critical point is a maximum or minimum value on the interval.

Why is it important to find the extreme values of a function?

Finding the extreme values of a function is important because it helps us understand the behavior of the function. It allows us to determine the highest and lowest points of a function, which can be useful in real-world applications such as optimization problems in engineering, economics, and physics.

Where do extreme values occur on a graph of a function?

Extreme values occur at the highest and lowest points on a graph of a function. These points can be identified by analyzing the first and second derivatives of the function. The first derivative tells us the slope of the function, and the second derivative tells us the concavity of the function. By using this information, we can determine at which points the function reaches its maximum or minimum values on a specific interval.

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