Calorimeter with ice and water

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a copper calorimeter containing water and ice, with a lead mass introduced at a higher temperature. The objective is to determine the final temperature of the system, assuming no heat loss to the surroundings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to equate the heat lost by the lead to the heat gained by the calorimeter, water, and ice. There are questions about the specific numbers used in the calculations and the correct application of specific heat and latent heat values.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the calculations and identifying errors in the original poster's approach. There is a recognition of the need to correct specific heat values and latent heat used in the equations. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of an assumption that no heat is lost to the surroundings, which is a critical aspect of the problem setup. Additionally, the original poster acknowledges a mistake in using the latent heat of fusion for ice.

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Homework Statement



A copper calorimeter can with mass 0.100 kg contains 0.160 kg of water and 0.018 kg of ice in thermal equilibrium at atmospheric pressure.

If 0.750 kg of lead at a temperature of 255^{o}C is dropped into the calorimeter can, what is the final temperature? Assume that no heat is lost to the surroundings.

c(copper)=390 (J/k*kg)
c(water)=4190 (J/k*kg)
c(lead)=1930 (J/k*kg)
L_{f(water)}=334*10^3(J/Kg)

Homework Equations



Q=mL_{f(water)}

Q=mc\DeltaT

0=Q_{1}+Q_{2}+Q_{3}


The Attempt at a Solution



I said that the heat lost by the lead is equal to the heat gained by the calorometer. So,

-mc(lead)\Delta T(lead)=mL_{f(water)}+mc(copper)\Delta T(cal)+mc(water)\Delta T(cal)


Than I noted that \Delta T(lead)\ and \\Delta T(cal) both share the same final temperature, say Tf. Letting \Delta T=Tf-Ti and subbing in the Ti (initial temp) values and then rearranging to get Tf on it's own,

-mc(lead)*(Tf-255)=mL_{f(water}+mc(copper)*(Tf-0)+mc(water)*(Tf-0)

Therefore,

Tf=24790/877=28.3^{o}C

Which is apparently wrong. Can anyone please tell me why?
 
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Hi Vuldoraq,

What numbers did you use in your final equation to get 28.3 degrees?
 
I used the following numbers,

-97.5*T_{f}+24862.5J=72.45J+39T_{f}+745.82T_{f}

Where the 72.45J is the latent heat of fusion of the ice, which I now can see is wrong. It should be 6012J. I foolishly used the waters specific heat incorrectly.

Redoing the above gives,

-97.5*T_{f}+24862.5J=6012J+39T_{f}+745.82T_{f}

Therefore T_{f}=18850/882.32=21.4^{o}C

Is that the right answer?
 
Hi everyone,

Please note I accidentally posted the same question twice. Sorry about that. I would delete one, but it seems I am unable.

Vuldoraq
 
Hey,

21 degrees C is the right answer. Thanks for all the help.

Vuldoraq
 

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