Can a Balloon Float Inside a Hollow, Air-Filled Space Elevator?

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A hollow cylindrical space elevator filled with 1 ATM of air presents significant challenges due to the mass and compressibility of air. As the elevator ascends, pressure gradients would require extreme pressure at the base to maintain 1 ATM at the top, potentially creating dangerous conditions. The high pressure and low temperatures could solidify the air, complicating the floating mechanism. Additionally, the structure would need to support the mass of the air, making it impractical. Overall, the concept of using a balloon to ascend in this manner faces insurmountable engineering and physical obstacles.
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What would the problems be with having a hollow cylindrical space elevator made of carbon (e.g. recent benzene linked chains) and instead of having the payload climb to the top you filled the inside with 1 ATM of air and floated to the top via balloon?
 
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udtsith said:
What would the problems be with having a hollow cylindrical space elevator made of carbon (e.g. recent benzene linked chains) and instead of having the payload climb to the top you filled the inside with 1 ATM of air and floated to the top via balloon?

There are two problems:
1. air is not massless
2. air is compressible (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometric_formula )
 
Friction? The Earth and space elevator rotate so as a climber ascends it must gain speed and will put sideways forces on the tower/tether.
 
udtsith said:
What would the problems be with having a hollow cylindrical space elevator made of carbon (e.g. recent benzene linked chains) and instead of having the payload climb to the top you filled the inside with 1 ATM of air and floated to the top via balloon?
As with the atmosphere outside, there would be a gradient of pressure as you go up. To have 1ATM at the top, you would need squiilions of ATM at the bottom. At best, it would be a bomb waiting to go off and at worst, it would require a fantastic input of energy to get those conditions.
 
The high pressure and low temperature would make air solid (everywhere apart from a tiny region close to the top). Hard to float up there.
Not to mention the huge amount of mass to build a tower of solid air.
 
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