Can a person slow down their free fall by pushing a heavy box?

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In a scenario where a person is falling with a heavy box, the discussion centers on whether pushing the box downwards can slow their fall. It is suggested that timing is crucial; throwing the box down just before impact could maximize drag and reduce fall speed. Some argue that exerting force with leg muscles while using the box for leverage might help momentarily counteract gravity. However, the consensus is that human strength is insufficient to significantly alter the fall's outcome. Ultimately, while there are theoretical benefits to timing and technique, the practical ability to slow down a free fall remains limited.
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hello,

consider a man falling from a roof with a heavy box in his hands. what should he do with the box?
 
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fk08 said:
hello,

consider a man falling from a roof with a heavy box in his hands. what should he do with the box?

Hold it over his head!

Nahh... just kidding. I would push it downwards and thus accelerate myself upwards shortly before impact.
 
but why shortly before impact?
 
Because (assuming that the box has the same drag coefficient as the person) that will maximize the energy lost to drag. Of course, it will have to be a very tall building for drag to matter much.
 
consider that case without drag
 
Then the timing does not matter.
 
DaleSpam said:
Then the timing does not matter.
I think timing does matter without considering drag.

Think of the extreme case: You are strong enough to give the box so much momentum downwards, that you stop falling just before impact. Applying the same momentum to the box at the begin of the fall will just make you fly higher and fall even deeper.
 
Good point. I think you are right, but I would have to work it out to be sure.
 
DaleSpam said:
Good point. I think you are right, but I would have to work it out to be sure.

Here a simulator (the box is just like rocket fuel):
http://lander.dunnbypaul.net/
 
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to minimize the "imapact velocity" one should through the box downwards as late as possible. this can be easy shown with a velocity vs time diagram and considering, that v*t is constant.
 
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ya..i think you should drop it as late as possible assuming you have enough strength in the end. I take it that you have nothing but the box, so once you come to stop momentarily after throwing, you should really make sure you don't fall long enough
 
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You can exert a far larger force using your leg muscles than using your arm muscles. While in free fall, you should put your feet on the box and jump at the last moment.
 
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It would be interesting to calculate the force that is needed to slow down the velocity to zero.
 
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vibjwb said:
This may be helpful to you
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode17
This seems to be close to what are doing
Sure, humans are to weak. It is hard enough to jump off the ground with the massive Earth as support. Pushing down a box or even an elevator cabin might give you enough force to cancel out the gravitational acceleration for a moment, but you would need much more to achieve an upwards acceleration that would slow you down significantly.
 
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