Can a Roller Coaster's Loop Height Affect the Force on the Track?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a roller coaster car's motion on a frictionless track, specifically focusing on the forces acting on the car at the top of a loop. The problem includes parameters such as mass, height, and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of kinetic energy at the top of the loop and question the correct height difference used in the energy conservation equation. There is an exploration of the relationship between potential and kinetic energy in the context of the roller coaster's motion.

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Some participants have identified potential errors in the original calculations regarding the height difference used in the energy equation. Clarifications about the correct height difference have been provided, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are working under the assumption that friction is negligible and are focused on understanding the implications of height on the forces experienced by the roller coaster car.

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A roller coaster car of mass 1216 kg slides on
a frictionless track starting at a distance 32 m
above the bottom of a loop 25 m in diameter.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2

If friction is negligible, what is the magni-
tude of the force of the track on the car when
the car is at the top of the loop? Answer in
units of N.

Fn=(mv^2) /R - Fg

mgh = .5mv^2

v^2= 2gh = 2*9.81*32 = 627.84

Fn = (1216*627.84)/12.5m - (1216*9.81)

= 49147.3152N ?

apparently this is wrong. What did i do wrong?
 
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Your error was in calculating the KE at the top of the loop:
[tex]mg \Delta h = 1/2 m v^2[/tex]

[tex]\Delta h[/tex] is not 32 m!
 
hoseA said:
v^2= 2gh = 2*9.81*32 = 627.84 ...

is this the velocity at the top.
 
A bit slow in typing then Doc Al.:smile:
 
Doc Al said:
Your error was in calculating the KE at the top of the loop:
[tex]mg \Delta h = 1/2 m v^2[/tex]
[tex]\Delta h[/tex] is not 32 m!

I presume delta h is then 32m - 25m ?

Thanks for the help.
 
hoseA said:
I presume delta h is then 32m - 25m ?
That's correct.
 

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