Can an airplane on a conveyor belt achieve flight?

In summary, the question discusses whether an airplane with wheels resting on a conveyor belt will achieve flight if the conveyor belt matches the wheel speed and the wheels cannot skid. The argument is that the plane cannot move forward no matter how much thrust is applied because the wheels must roll faster than the conveyor belt. The disagreement is that speed is needed for lift at the wings and since the plane cannot achieve speed due to the conveyor belt, it will not achieve lift and therefore will not fly. The advice is to search for previous discussions on this topic.
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This question was posed on another forum. I figure the best place to get the true answer would be on a forum dedicated to physics.

If there was an airplane with wheels and the wheels are resting on a giant conveyor belt, will the plane achieve flight? The conveyor belt will match the speed of the wheels. The wheels also cannot skid on the conveyor belt.

Isn't it true that the plane cannot move forward no matter how much thrust is applied? This is because the wheels must roll faster than the conveyor is moving back in order for the plane to move. If the plane isn't moving with the engine blazing, the pilot applies more fuel for more thrust, and tries to move the plane forward, and what happens is the wheels spin faster now because the engines are pulling harder. But even still, the plane will not move because as the wheels spin faster, so will the conveyor belt move faster to match the wheel speed.

Will the plane achieve flight? Speed is needed to achieve lift at the wings. Since the plane cannot achieve speed, because it cannot move, it will not achieve lift, and it will not fly.
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What is an "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt"?

An "airplane on a conveyor belt" is a hypothetical scenario that is used to test the understanding of basic physics concepts, such as the relationship between force and motion. It involves a plane placed on a conveyor belt that is moving in the opposite direction of the plane's takeoff speed.

How does the "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt" scenario work?

In this scenario, the conveyor belt is designed to match the speed of the airplane's wheels. As the plane's wheels spin, the conveyor belt moves in the opposite direction, creating the illusion that the plane is stationary. The question is whether the plane will be able to take off or not.

Will the "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt" be able to take off?

Yes, the airplane will be able to take off. This scenario does not take into account the fact that the plane's engines provide the necessary thrust to overcome the force of the conveyor belt. As long as the plane's engines are functioning properly, it will be able to take off regardless of the speed of the conveyor belt.

What physics concepts are being tested in the "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt" scenario?

The "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt" scenario tests the understanding of basic physics concepts such as Newton's laws of motion, the relationship between force and acceleration, and the principles of aerodynamics. It also challenges the concept of relative motion and how it affects an object's velocity.

Is the "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt" scenario applicable to real-world situations?

No, the "Airplane on a Conveyor Belt" scenario is purely hypothetical and has no real-world applications. It is simply a thought experiment used to test one's understanding of physics concepts and should not be taken as a representation of how airplanes actually work.

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