Can Apes Be As Smart As Humans? - A Fascinating Nova Exploration

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The discussion centers on the PBS production exploring the cognitive abilities of apes compared to humans, highlighting both similarities and differences. Key points include the ability of chimpanzees to learn aspects of human language and use tools, yet their limitations in tasks that dogs can perform, suggesting that intelligence is multi-faceted and subjective. A notable experiment showed children struggling to delay gratification for greater rewards, similar to apes, which raises questions about developmental behaviors. The apes' instinctive approach to problem-solving, such as ignoring instructions in favor of immediate rewards, contrasts with children's tendency to follow directions, emphasizing the role of social learning in human development. This dynamic may also reflect broader themes in human culture, including the transmission of knowledge and the foundations of religion.
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A fascinating look at the mind of our cousins; how we differ, and what we have in common.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/apegenius/
[watch online]
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
A fascinating look at the mind of our cousins; how we differ, and what we have in common.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/apegenius/
[watch online]

A great production, but typical of much of the fine work shown on PBS.

I was particularly interested in the way chimps can learn some human language and use tools, but fail at some tasks that dogs can perform. This tends to support the idea that "intelligence" is a multi-faceted thing that probably only exists in the eyes of those who try to measure it as a global entity.
 
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A great production, but typical of much of the fine work shown on PBS.

I was particularly interested in the way chimps can learn some human language and use tools, but fail at some tasks that dogs can perform. This tends to support the idea that "intelligence" is a multi-faceted thing that probably only exists in the eyes of those who try to measure it as a global entity.

My favorite part was when the children were tested to see if they could resist one piece of candy so that they could receive four pieces later. They didn't do much better than the apes! :smile:
 
Extremely fascinating. Well worth watching.

I find it very interesting that the apes, when presented with the transparent puzzle box, ignored the instructions and just went straight for the candy, while the children continued to follow instructions.

At first glance, the apes' approach seems to be the more reasonable one, but when you take into account the reason behind the children's actions, much more becomes apparent. Being hard-wired to look to adult or 'teacher' figures as a child and unquestioningly absorb what is being taught would lead to knowledge being more efficiently passed on to future generations, who could then build upon it.

Interestingly enough, I think the same mechanism may be responsible for the prosperity of religion...
 
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