Can Electrostatic Charge Attract Dust in a Household Environment?

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Electrostatic charge can be utilized to manage dust in household environments, with discussions highlighting the challenges of dislodging dust from surfaces compared to attracting airborne particles. The prototype for a hand-held tool aims to use electrostatic discharge to push dust away from a filter screen, raising questions about the feasibility of miniaturizing the necessary components. It is noted that while charging a surface could repel dust, the difficulty lies in how firmly the dust is adhered, particularly if it is wet or chemically bonded. Additionally, there is interest in creating a surface with a constant charge to attract and retain small dust particles. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexities involved in effectively using electrostatics for dust management.
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What a great forum.

I'm prototyping a small hand-held 110V tool. I need to add an electrostatic discharge function to it. We have all seen the "Ionic filter" devices at Sharper Image, where the plates will charge and attract dust. This is the opposite functionality - I need to push dust away.

The discharge is needed to dislodge dust and other non-conductive debris that embeds in a filter screen. Just enough of a charge to kick dust and debris off of the surface of the screen. Can't use vacuum or any other method.

- Is it possible to get this functionality in a small enough size for a hand-held power tool?

- What are the best sources for electrostatic components?

Thanking you in advance!
 
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Sounds difficult, once the dust has stuck to a surface the energy needed to unstick it is much greater than the very small energy needed to attract randomly floating dust in the air.
 
mgb_phys said:
Sounds difficult, once the dust has stuck to a surface the energy needed to unstick it is much greater than the very small energy needed to attract randomly floating dust in the air.

Thanks mgb_phys. By difficult do you mean needing a gigantic bank of capacitors, or possibly small and hand-held? Or impossible?
 
Don't know - to charge something floating in the air you only need to induce a very small charge in something that is well insulated.
If you charge a suface then presumably any dust on the surface will gain the same charge and should be repelled, the difficulty is in how it has stuck on.
If it is dry and has no chemical affinity ( so it could be blown off with say a gentle breath) then it might be fairly easy, if it wet or has chemically bonded on then it might be impossible.

Surfaces are sometimes charged to prvent dust landing but I haven't heard of a surface being cleaned by being charged.
 
hi,
I've been reading the thread of your conversation around electrostatic dust and I'm actually trying to find a way to attract small dust particles in a household environment.
i have no physics and no engineering skills whatsoever so this is all new to me, but what i am wanting to do is have a surface with a constant charge (in order that it always collect and continue to collect), so that small particles that come within its field will stay stuck to it.
how do i do this??
any help would be much appreciated.
thanks
dane
 
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