Can I Calculate Salt Concentration in a 1500kg/m^3 Solution Using Density?

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The discussion centers on calculating the concentration of salt in a solution formed by mixing 50 kg of salt with 100 kg of water, resulting in a solution with a density of 1500 kg/m^3. Participants debate whether the concentration can be determined by simply subtracting the density of water (1000 kg/m^3) from the solution density or if a more complex calculation is necessary. The importance of considering the volume of salt is highlighted, as its density (2.17 g/cc) is significantly greater than that of water, suggesting that the volume of salt cannot be neglected. The total mass of the solution equals the sum of the masses of the components, which should be factored into the concentration calculation. The conversation also touches on misconceptions regarding the additive nature of densities in solutions and the concept of partial molal volumes.
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If 50kg of salt is mixed with 100 kg of water to form a 1500kg/m^3 solution, can I find the concentration of salt by subtracting the density of water which is 1000kg/m^3, or do I have to equate it like this: 50/((50+100)/1500)=500kg/m^3 ? Is the volume of salt negligible so that the volume of solution equals the volume of water?
 
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Supernova123 said:
If 50kg of salt is mixed with 100 kg of water to form a 1500kg/m^3 solution, can I find the concentration of salt by subtracting the density of water which is 1000kg/m^3, or do I have to equate it like this: 50/((50+100)/1500)=500kg/m^3 ? Is the volume of salt negligible so that the volume of solution equals the volume of water?
The concentration of a solution can be defined in several different ways. Here are some of them:

https://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/howtosolveit/Solutions/concentrations.html

The density of most salts is often greater than that of water. For common table salt, NaCl, its density is 2.17 g/cc (water = 1.0 g/cc)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chloride

Your example solution has a final density of 1500 kg/m3. Since you know that 50 kg of salt is mixed with 100 kg of water, you should be able to figure out the volume of solution created, since the total mass of solution must equal the total mass of the stuff being mixed together.

For more information about solutions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution
 
Supernova123 said:
If 50kg of salt is mixed with 100 kg of water to form a 1500kg/m^3 solution

How do you know that's the density of the solution produced?
 
Borek said:
How do you know that's the density of the solution produced?
You don't, but that's what the OP said.
 
SteamKing said:
You don't, but that's what the OP said.

I wonder if OP doesn't think density is in some strange way additive.
 
The solution process is magical, partial molal volumes of solutes are all zero.
 
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