Can I Design a Transformer Coil with These Specifications?

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The discussion revolves around the design of a transformer coil with specific characteristics, including operating frequency, turns ratio, and current specifications. Participants explore the feasibility of creating a transformer for hobby purposes, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of transformer design.

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  • One participant inquires about designing a transformer with a specified operating frequency of 20kHz, a turns ratio of 1:8, and dual secondary coils, seeking advice on design software.
  • Another participant notes that 20kHz is an audio frequency and suggests that transformers capable of handling this frequency can be found at places like Radio Shack.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of a transformer to raise the voltage of a square wave, with the assertion that high-frequency components may be lost, resulting in a rounded output resembling a sine wave.
  • A participant discusses the relationship between primary and secondary currents, suggesting that if the maximum secondary current is 1mA, the primary current should not exceed 8mA, and proposes using a small ferrite toroid for the transformer core.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of using a DC voltage to the resistor instead of a square wave, suggesting that a voltage multiplier circuit could be built using diodes and capacitors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of using a transformer for square wave voltage conversion, with no consensus reached on the best approach for achieving the desired output.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the behavior of transformers with square waves and the potential for voltage multiplication, but these points remain unresolved and depend on specific circuit configurations and components.

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This discussion may be of interest to hobbyists and individuals exploring transformer design, audio frequency applications, and voltage conversion techniques in electronics.

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I am in need of a transformer which has the following characteristics:

Operating frequency 20kHz
Turns Ratio 1:8
Primary 12V square wave @ around 100mA max
Dual secondary coils (wound together with equal turns)
(Note: Only 1 secondary coil will operate at any given time)
Secondary 96V square wave at 1mA max
Load is simply a high watt resistor.

Now, my question is, with this information could I design a coil myself?

Is there any easy to learn transformer design software I could use for this?

I contacted an engineering company and they wanted 1,000 dollars just to start the project...I don't need this for anything important, it just for a hobby, nothing long term either, just something to play around with and learn from...
 
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20Khz is an audio frequency. Transformers that handle that frequency could be looked for at places such as Radio Shack.

The problem with using a transformer to raise the voltage level of a square wave is that you will loose the high frequency components of the square wave due to the action of the transformer as a filter coil. You can input a square wave, but the output will be rounded to resemble a sine wave.

A square wave is a sine wave with high frequency components the make the sharp edges added to the basic sine wave. Since any inductor will have more resistance at higher frequencies than lower frequencies those high frequency components get blocked leaving you with a sine wave.

If you have a square wave output at 12 volts you would need to have it feed a circuit that has the capability of pulsing a 96 volt signal. A transistor circuit would probably be your best bet and be sure to choose a transistor with a emitter collector voltage never exceed of greater than 200 volts.
 
Primary and secondary currents are related. So if max secondary is 1mA, with your turns ratio primary should be not much over 8mA (or double this, if you have a pair of secondaries). If your output is 96v at 1mA, you won't need a high power resistor for such a load.

V · I ≈ 0.1 watt

A small ferrite toroid about the size of an ostentatious wedding ring might do. Thread your enamelled wire through it. Try 40 turns for the the primary if you can't think of a better number.
 
Keep in mind that if you can deliver a DC voltage to your resistor (instead of a square wave), then it's easy to build a 8x voltage multiplier from diodes and capacitors only.
 

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