Can induction prove that P(x) has a unique positive zero?

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The discussion focuses on proving that the polynomial P(x) = x^n - a_1 x^(n-1) - ... - a_n has a unique positive zero for positive real numbers a_1,...,a_n. The initial confusion arises from the relationship between the polynomial Q(x) and its complex zeros, leading to the concern that multiple positive zeros could exist. However, it is clarified that using induction on n can effectively demonstrate that if the proposition holds for n-1, it also holds for n due to the properties of the derivative P'(x). This approach shows that having more than one positive zero necessitates multiple positive turning points, reinforcing the uniqueness of the positive zero for P(x). The conclusion emphasizes the simplicity of proving the proposition through induction.
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[SOLVED] what is wrong with this

What is wrong with this.

I want to show this: Let a_1,...,a_n be positive real numbers. Prove that the polynomial
P(x) = x^n-a_1 x^{n-1}-...-a_n has a unique positive zero.


Q(x) = x^n+a_1 x^{n-1} + ...+ a_n has n complex nonzero zeroes. For each of them, we have that

0 = |x^n+a_1 x^{n-1} + ...+ a_n | \geq ||x|^n-a_1 |x|^{n-1} - ...- a_n |

which implies that |x| is a zero y^n-a_1 y^{n-1} - ...- a_n. But that implies that there could be more than one unless it is somehow true that all of the zeros of Q(x) lie on a circle in the complex plane!
 
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never mind, I figured it out
 
Hi ehrenfest. I wonder if you thought of using induction on this one?

Note that if the proposition is true for n-1 then the derivative P'(x) also has one unique positive zero which in turn implies the desired property for P(n). (as it's trivial to show that for P(x) to have more than one positive zero that it must also have more than one +ive turning point).

So it's dead easy to show that the proposition for n-1 implies the proposition for n.
 
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