Can Loop Variables Transform Photons into Closed Flux Lines?

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Loop variables are discussed in relation to whether photons can form closed flux lines. The consensus is that photons are not lines of force or flux, and they do not form loops as they travel. The conversation touches on the concept of a photon leaving a trail, but this is clarified as a misunderstanding of wavelength diagrams. A reference to a "Photon Mobius Strip" is made, yet it is concluded that while polarization can exhibit Möbius-like characteristics, photons themselves do not circle or form closed loops. Ultimately, the question about photons forming loops is answered with a definitive no.
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Loop variables: A line of force or flux that is closed to form a loop.

Can a Photon be a line of force or flux that closes to form a loop?
 
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A photon is not a "line of force", whatever that is supposed to mean.
 
Well I guess as the Photon travels it leaves a trail, unless I've been taking the diagrams of wavelengths to literally. So would you say a Photon is instead a line of flux?
 
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Well I guess as the Photon travels it leaves a trail
It does not.
HawkI said:
unless I've been taking the diagrams of wavelengths to literally.
Yes, way to literally.
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So would you say a Photon is instead a line of flux?
No. A photon is not a line of anything.
 
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So I guess that means then that Photons can not circle around and form loops. There again recently this news story came along 'Photon Mobius Strip' http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/mobius-strip-made-light/

Would you say this is a closed loop?

Good to know I have been to literal with wave length diagrams :)

Edit: I genuinely just remembered this news story, I'm not trying to play ace cards up my sleeve here, I'm not trying to catch people out like a detective or lawyer.
 
The photons don't form a circle. The polarization as function of space can be Möbius-like.
 
Awesome, well thank you, my question has been answered.
 

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