Can Photon Accelerate in Vacuum?

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Photons cannot accelerate in a vacuum since their speed is a constant. While the magnitude of their velocity remains unchanged, photons can change direction, which is a form of acceleration that is always perpendicular to their velocity vector. The discussion explores the possibility of linear acceleration of photons under gravitational influence, suggesting that if photons can experience forces, they may be accelerated towards massive objects. This acceleration could be observed through phenomena like red and blue shifts in light. The conversation also touches on the implications of energy and momentum equations in relation to photon behavior.
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It cannot because the speed of photon is a constant in vacuum. So it also cannot deccelerate in vacuum.
 
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Thank you Capt. Obvious? :smile:

Although it is only the magnitude of the velocity that is constant. Since it is possible to change the direction of the photon, you could say that it can be "accelerated", but the acceleration vector is always perpendicular to the velocity vector.
 
but the acceleration vector is always perpendicular to the velocity vector.

In circular motion.
 
Integral said:
In circular motion.
Or whenever the acceleration changes only the direction of the velocity vector and not its magnitude.
 
Linear Acceleration Of A Photon

There seems to be some question as to whether or not a photon can be linearly accelerated.

For a photon:

E = Pc

P = mc

E = mc^2 = hf

m = hf/c^2

Consider the gravitational attraction of two photons separated by a distance R.

F = G m1 m2/R^2

Hence

m1 a = G m1 m2/R^2

Hence

a = G m2/R^2

Hence

a = G hf/c^2R^2

Thus, if there can be action at a distance between two photons, and the Newtonian gravitational force law is correct, and the relativistic equation for energy is correct, and the quantum mechanical relation for photon energy is correct, then a photon can be linearly accelerated.

And if the Newtonian Gravitational Force Law is incorrect, but photons can experience real gravity, a photon will accelerate as it heads towards a sun, because it is being pulled. Indeed, if a photon can experience any force, then it can be accelerated.
 
This sort of "acceleration" is observed as red and blue shifted light. Since the speed of light can vary its wavelength must change.
 
Is this the point where the dependent of kinetic energy as a function of velocity

K.E. = \frac {1}{2}mv^2

breaks away to depend on wavelength or frequency?

Energy = h \nu
 
Hurkyl,

Thanks you very much.
 
Recall that force is defined as F := dp / dτ, not F := m a. Since |p| = hf/c for a photon, we can differentiate p2 to get:

2 p . dp / dτ = (h/c) df / dτ
or, in other words,

p.F = (h/2c) df / dτ


P.S. I'm using m for rest mass, F and p are 4-vectors, and . for the (Minowski) dot product.

P.P.S. Argh, you replied before I could delete it! I wanted to look up a detail or two. :frown: In particular, I think |p| = hf/c might only be valid for 3-momentum, not 4-momentum. It's been a while since I've done any of this in any detail! Maybe I should've wussed out and done it with 3-vectors!
 
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Hurkyl

Thanks again.
 

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