Can polarized light be recovered after passing through multiple mediums?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of recovering polarized light after it has passed through multiple mediums, drawing parallels to the behavior of evanescent waves. Participants explore the implications of polarization in light and sound, particularly in relation to filtering and reflection.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that polarized light can be restored to an unpolarized condition, questioning whether this can be achieved through processes similar to those seen in sound waves transitioning between mediums.
  • Others argue that while polarized light can be transmitted through filters, the majority of unpolarized light is lost due to reflection or absorption, suggesting that recovery may not be feasible in practical terms.
  • A participant challenges the connection between evanescent waves and the recovery of polarization, noting that sound does not experience total internal reflection and that the speed of sound differs between mediums.
  • Another participant mentions that evanescent waves are not polarized in the conventional sense and discusses techniques like Total Internal Reflection Fluorescence (TIRF) that utilize evanescent waves, raising questions about the polarization state of light that tunnels through during such processes.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between evanescent waves and polarized light recovery, with no consensus reached on the feasibility or methods of achieving this recovery.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of polarization in the context of evanescent waves and the specific conditions under which polarized light may be recovered.

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I was curious; having gone through a class covering Waves, in various forms encountered, we covered evanescent waves. These waves seen to be able to penetrate through some mediums, even able to be recovered. An example might be sound passing through water, then air, and then back into water.

My question is, can one recover polarized light along this line of reasoning, that is, restoring the light to its unpolarized condition?
 
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GPS443556 said:
I was curious; having gone through a class covering Waves, in various forms encountered, we covered evanescent waves. These waves seen to be able to penetrate through some mediums, even able to be recovered. An example might be sound passing through water, then air, and then back into water.

My question is, can one recover polarized light along this line of reasoning, that is, restoring the light to its unpolarized condition?

In most cases (camera filters, sunglasses) light is polarized by filtering out the light of the other polarization and passing only the desired polarization.

So, if you have unpolarized light coming into the filter, you have (at most) 50% polarized light being transmitted. The rest is reflected or (usually) absorbed.

You may be able to turn the polarized light that was transmitted back into unpolarized light, but the 50% (or more) that was reflected or absorbed is gone for all practical purposes.

I suppose if it is reflected, you can try and set up an optical system of mirrors to catch it and recombine it again.
 
Sound going from water to air does not suffer total internal reflection so no evanescent waves.
The speed of sound in water is higher than in the air, not the other way (as it is for light).

I don't understand your link between evanescent waves and "recovering polarization".

An example of "recovering" the evanescent waves may be the technique called TIRF (Total Internal Reflection Fluorescence) where the evanescent waves are used to excite fluorescence of some beads or cells with dyes situated close enough to the interface.
 
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GPS443556 said:
I was curious; having gone through a class covering Waves, in various forms encountered, we covered evanescent waves. These waves seen to be able to penetrate through some mediums, even able to be recovered. An example might be sound passing through water, then air, and then back into water.

My question is, can one recover polarized light along this line of reasoning, that is, restoring the light to its unpolarized condition?

Evanescent waves are not polarized in the usual sense- they are nonpropogating waves. They can be 'recovered' (frustrated total internal reflection is one example, total internal reflection fluorescence microscopy is another).

But you do ask an interesting question- given polarized light undergoing frustrated total internal reflection, what is the polarization state of the light that 'tunneled' through? It seems to be identical to the original polarization, but I need to read the article more closely:

http://scholarworks.uno.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1071&context=ee_facpubs
 

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