Can Prophecy Violate Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion centers on the conflict between claims of predicting the future and the principles of quantum mechanics, which state that future states of a system can only be known probabilistically, not deterministically. Participants express skepticism towards individuals who use pseudo-scientific arguments to support their claims, particularly those that involve financial transactions for dubious services, such as altering one's energy spectrum for spiritual benefits. The conversation also touches on the absurdity of certain beliefs, such as the idea that cooking at home alters food's electrons, highlighting the prevalence of misinformation. Additionally, the topic of time travel is briefly mentioned, referencing a physicist's attempt to create a "time telephone," though the consensus is that the effort is flawed. Overall, the discussion critiques the misuse of scientific concepts in promoting unfounded predictions and beliefs.
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I've always wondered that when people claim to predict the future, don't they violate the laws of quantum mechanics? QM says that the state of a future system cannot be known (as it could be for classical physics), but can only be subject to the laws of probability.
 
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If you want my opinion, those people should be violating a lot more laws than they do anyway. Especially the kind that used "physical" arguments to support their gibberish ("your energy spectrum is distorted, but if you give me $ 300 I will resonate your eigenfrequency so that you may pass into a higher spacetime dimension" - *puke*).
 


CompuChip said:
If you want my opinion, those people should be violating a lot more laws than they do anyway. Especially the kind that used "physical" arguments to support their gibberish ("your energy spectrum is distorted, but if you give me $ 300 I will resonate your eigenfrequency so that you may pass into a higher spacetime dimension" - *puke*).

In reading your post, I noticed your Aura oscillating into the violet.
 


CompuChip said:
If you want my opinion, those people should be violating a lot more laws than they do anyway. Especially the kind that used "physical" arguments to support their gibberish ("your energy spectrum is distorted, but if you give me $ 300 I will resonate your eigenfrequency so that you may pass into a higher spacetime dimension" - *puke*).

Agreed! Did you know that Kevin Trudeau suggested in his book that cooking food at your house instead of going to a restaurant modifies its electrons? The scary thing is that people actually believe this stuff.
 


Karl G. said:
I've always wondered that when people claim to predict the future, don't they violate the laws of quantum mechanics? QM says that the state of a future system cannot be known (as it could be for classical physics), but can only be subject to the laws of probability.

In a sense, what you are asking is if time travel [beyond the normal sense of time] is possible. The answer is that we don't know.

There was one recent effort to make what amounts to a time telephone to the future [or to the past, depending on which end we are talking about], by a physicist named Mallet. I believe the consensus is that his papers are in error.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=42834
 
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