Can somebody help translate this question? 2D Kinematics.

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The discussion revolves around understanding a 2D kinematics problem involving a particle's velocity and net force. The participant initially calculates the time when the net force reaches 35 N and attempts to find angles related to the velocity vector. They express confusion over the angles required for the net force and the particle's direction of travel, ultimately finding a discrepancy in their calculations. Clarification is provided that the velocity's direction corresponds to the particle's travel direction, while the net force's direction must be calculated using vector components. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting vector components in kinematics problems.
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I'm having difficult understanding the question, can somebody help me? The question is:

"The velocity of a 3 kg particle is given by v = (3ti + 6(t^2)j )m/s, with time t in seconds. At the instant the net force on the particle has a magnitude of 35 N, what are the direction (relative to the positive direction of the x axis) of (a) the net force and (b) the particle's direction of travel?

Answer:
(a) 75.099403312170 Units ° (degrees)
(b) 61.978933315223 Units ° (degrees)"


My initial approach was to find t when the magnitude of the particle is 35N to get the components of the triangle.

Velocity and Acceleration
v = 3ti + 6(t^2)j
a = 3 + 12t

Time
F = ma
35 = 3(3+12t)
35 = 9 + 36t
26 = 36t
.72 = t

Since, I thought I was to find the angle created by the velocity vector, I found the y-comp. (opp.) and x-comp. (adj.).
y-comp. = 6(t^2) = 6(.72^2) = 3.13
x-comp. = 3t = 3(.72) = 2.27

tan(theta) = opp./adj. = 3.13/2.27
theta = arctan(3.13/2.27) = arctan(1.44) = 55.27

However, 55.27 isn't the angle... for anything! Did I misinterpret the question? What is the difference between the two angles they are asking me to find, what are they asking of my specifically? If somebody can help me I would deeply appreciate it.

Thank you for taking the time to read my question.
 
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DavidAp said:
I'm having difficult understanding the question, can somebody help me? The question is:

"The velocity of a 3 kg particle is given by v = (3ti + 6(t^2)j )m/s, with time t in seconds. At the instant the net force on the particle has a magnitude of 35 N, what are the direction (relative to the positive direction of the x axis) of (a) the net force and (b) the particle's direction of travel?

Answer:
(a) 75.099403312170 Units ° (degrees)
(b) 61.978933315223 Units ° (degrees)"


My initial approach was to find t when the magnitude of the particle is 35N to get the components of the triangle.

Velocity and Acceleration
v = 3ti + 6(t^2)j
a = 3 + 12t

Time
F = ma
35 = 3(3+12t)
35 = 9 + 36t
26 = 36t
.72 = t

Since, I thought I was to find the angle created by the velocity vector, I found the y-comp. (opp.) and x-comp. (adj.).
y-comp. = 6(t^2) = 6(.72^2) = 3.13
x-comp. = 3t = 3(.72) = 2.27

tan(theta) = opp./adj. = 3.13/2.27
theta = arctan(3.13/2.27) = arctan(1.44) = 55.27

However, 55.27 isn't the angle... for anything! Did I misinterpret the question? What is the difference between the two angles they are asking me to find, what are they asking of my specifically? If somebody can help me I would deeply appreciate it.

Thank you for taking the time to read my question.

The velocity had an i and j component. 3ti + 6t2j

Should the acceleration also have had an i and j component.
 
PeterO said:
The velocity had an i and j component. 3ti + 6t2j

Should the acceleration also have had an i and j component.
Yes... however, I'm still quite oblivious to how that will help :/. I just assumed that the i and j component represented the x and y component of the slope for the velocity. How will i and j help in the equation for acceleration?

Velocity and Acceleration
v = 3ti + 6(t^2)j
a = 3i + 12tj

Time
F = ma
35 = 3(3i+12tj)
35 = 9i + 36tj
..? help?
 
DavidAp said:
Yes... however, I'm still quite oblivious to how that will help :/. I just assumed that the i and j component represented the x and y component of the slope for the velocity. How will i and j help in the equation for acceleration?

Velocity and Acceleration
v = 3ti + 6(t^2)j
a = 3i + 12tj

Time
F = ma
35 = 3(3i+12tj)
35 = 9i + 36tj
..? help?

because the directions i & j are perpendicular, I expect you would be working with Pythagorus.

(35/3)2 = 32 + (12t)2

That will let you find t, so then substitute into velocity and acceleration expressions to find the directions and magnitudes.
 
DavidAp said:
Yes... however, I'm still quite oblivious to how that will help :/. I just assumed that the i and j component represented the x and y component of the slope for the velocity. How will i and j help in the equation for acceleration?

Velocity and Acceleration
v = 3ti + 6(t^2)j
a = 3i + 12tj

Time
F = ma
35 = 3(3i+12tj)
35 = 9i + 36tj
..? help?

When you want to find the magnitude of the acceleration the components add in quadrature (that is, square root of the sum of the squares).
 
gneill said:
When you want to find the magnitude of the acceleration the components add in quadrature (that is, square root of the sum of the squares).
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help. :)
 
DavidAp said:
I'm having difficult understanding the question, can somebody help me? The question is:

"The velocity of a 3 kg particle is given by v = (3ti + 6(t^2)j )m/s, with time t in seconds. At the instant the net force on the particle has a magnitude of 35 N, what are the direction (relative to the positive direction of the x axis) of (a) the net force and (b) the particle's direction of travel?

Answer:
(a) 75.099403312170 Units ° (degrees)
(b) 61.978933315223 Units ° (degrees)"


My initial approach was to find t when the magnitude of the particle is 35N to get the components of the triangle.

Velocity and Acceleration
v = 3ti + 6(t^2)j
a = 3 + 12t

Time
F = ma
35 = 3(3+12t)
35 = 9 + 36t
26 = 36t
.72 = t

Since, I thought I was to find the angle created by the velocity vector, I found the y-comp. (opp.) and x-comp. (adj.).
y-comp. = 6(t^2) = 6(.72^2) = 3.13
x-comp. = 3t = 3(.72) = 2.27

tan(theta) = opp./adj. = 3.13/2.27
theta = arctan(3.13/2.27) = arctan(1.44) = 55.27

However, 55.27 isn't the angle... for anything! Did I misinterpret the question? What is the difference between the two angles they are asking me to find, what are they asking of my specifically? If somebody can help me I would deeply appreciate it.

Thank you for taking the time to read my question.

So I solved a, but I don't know how to do part b. Anyone can help me out ?
 
The direction of the velocity is the direction of travel.
 
SammyS said:
The direction of the velocity is the direction of travel.

Thank you !
 
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