Can somebody tell me the calaculations of this 2 transistor circuit?

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The discussion revolves around the calculations involved in a two-transistor circuit, specifically focusing on understanding how a current of 10mA is achieved. Participants explore various approaches to analyzing the circuit, including the relationships within bipolar junction transistors (BJTs) and the implications of specific voltage values.

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  • Some participants inquire about the calculations for the circuit, expressing confusion over how the current of 10mA is derived.
  • One participant suggests labeling the voltages at each node as a starting point for analysis.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationships between the different ports of a BJT to solve the circuit.
  • A later reply offers a hint regarding the base-emitter voltage of the 2N5401 Q6, suggesting that it is approximately 0.62V when it begins to turn on, which influences the current through a resistor in parallel.
  • Some participants express frustration with the perceived difficulty of the problem and mention that they found answers in another forum, providing specific calculations related to the base-emitter voltage and current through the resistor.
  • There is a discussion about the goal of the forum being to share knowledge rather than simply providing answers, with some participants advocating for a more engaged learning approach.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, and there are competing views on how to assist the original poster in understanding the calculations.

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Some assumptions about the circuit's operation and the specific values used in calculations are not fully explored, leaving room for uncertainty in the analysis presented.

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can somebody tell me this circuits calculations, how come 10mA
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michael1978 said:
can somebody tell me this circuits calculations, how come 10mA
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To start do you know how to solve for BJT circuits?
If you do know the relationship between the different ports of a BJT, then you can do what berkeman said and dive into the math.
 
Just a short hint:
When you assume a "normal" (classical) value for the voltage across the B-E path of Q6 (linear operation of Q6), it is a very simple task to get a rough estimate for the current through a resistor which is in parallel to this B-E junctiun.
 
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why you make it so difficult?
it easy, i put the problem in other forum
this is the answer for there
The base-emitter voltage of the 2N5401 Q6 is about 0.62V when it begins to turn on. When Q6 turns on it begins to cutoff Q7 so the current in R9 and Q7 is constant at 0.62V/62 ohms= 10mA.
 
michael1978 said:
why you make it so difficult?
it easy, i put the problem in other forum
this is the answer for there
The base-emitter voltage of the 2N5401 Q6 is about 0.62V when it begins to turn on. When Q6 turns on it begins to cutoff Q7 so the current in R9 and Q7 is constant at 0.62V/62 ohms= 10mA.

The goal of this forum is to share knowledge and grow the community and members, not to just blindly give you answers. In order to properly help you learn we need to know what level of experience you have, and why you are stuck on a problem. We won't spoon feed you answers if you don't respond to our questions.
 
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michael1978 said:
why you make it so difficult?
Why do you need to be given answers, when it is so easy to figure them out with our hints. You will not get very far in life with this approach, I'm afraid.

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