Can Sound Really Exist in the Vacuum of Space?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the existence of sound in the vacuum of space, exploring how sound can propagate in such an environment characterized by low density and pressure. Participants examine examples of sound related to astronomical phenomena and the conversion of waves into sound waves.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference examples from TED talks and NASA regarding sound in space, questioning how sound can exist in a vacuum.
  • One participant suggests that the sounds attributed to space are actually radio signals converted into sound waves by humans, likening it to listening to the radio.
  • Another participant explains that sounds related to cosmic phenomena are derived from measuring waves through gas in clusters, which are then transformed into sound, noting the extremely long frequency of these waves.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the conversion of transverse waves to longitudinal sound vibrations, indicating a lack of expertise in physics.
  • One participant describes a method for determining frequency through observation of wave motion, specifically mentioning a frequency of once per 10 million years for certain cosmic sounds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of sound in space, with multiple competing views on how sound is perceived and measured in such an environment.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the conversion processes between different types of waves and the assumptions underlying the examples provided.

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deepthishan said:
I have read that sounds exist in space. Some examples include:

1. http://www.ted.com/talks/honor_harger_a_history_of_the_universe_in_sound.html
2. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/universe/black_hole_sound.html

How does sound propagate in space if "Outer space has very low density and pressure, and is the closest physical approximation of a perfect vacuum" ? (- Wikipedia)

Thanks!

Number 1 is simply radio signals that we receive and turn into sound waves ourselves. It is very much like listening to the radio.

Number 2 is the result of the scientists measuring waves through the gas in the cluster and changing them into a sound. Because of the low density, the frequency of these waves is very very long, as the article said it was 10 million years long. (1 hertz is one cycle per second, this one would be 1 cycle per 10 million years.)
 
Drakkith said:
Number 1 is simply radio signals that we receive and turn into sound waves ourselves. It is very much like listening to the radio.

Number 2 is the result of the scientists measuring waves through the gas in the cluster and changing them into a sound. Because of the low density, the frequency of these waves is very very long, as the article said it was 10 million years long. (1 hertz is one cycle per second, this one would be 1 cycle per 10 million years.)

Thank you- your answer cleared up a number of questions!

However, how can these transverse waves be converted to longitudinal sound vibrations? (As guessed I'm not a Physics Major!)
 
By figuring out the frequency. If you were to look at me wave a string back and forth you could count the number of times it goes up and down per second and come up with the frequency. In this case they were able to figure out that it was once per 10 million years.
 

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