Can Using a Single 220v Line in My Bedroom Affect My Electric Meter Reading?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the implications of using a single 220v line for electrical outlets in a bedroom, particularly concerning electric meter readings and safety hazards associated with grounding through water pipes. Participants explore the technical aspects of electrical consumption and safety regulations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether their electric meter would register consumption when using a single 220v line.
  • Another participant asserts that the meter will indeed count power usage, emphasizing the safety risks of using water pipes as a ground.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of grounding practices, with multiple participants highlighting the dangers of creating a ground fault.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the risks associated with using water pipes for grounding and seeks clarification.
  • Further discussion reveals that a large voltage difference can occur between Earth ground and neutral, potentially leading to electric shocks.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about experiencing a shock from a water pipe ground, illustrating the historical context of grounding practices.
  • Another participant notes that appliances traditionally suggested grounding to water pipes, reflecting on past practices and their dangers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the safety hazards of using water pipes as a ground and the fact that the electric meter will measure consumption. However, there is no consensus on the implications of these practices or the extent of the risks involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding electrical grounding and safety codes, indicating a need for clearer information on the topic. The discussion includes anecdotal evidence and personal experiences that may not reflect current safety standards.

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In my bedroom I use a single 220v line and made an electrical outlet while the second line is connected to the water facet which is obviously the ground. the result is a 110v power source. I use this to power my lamp shades and other bedroom lighting.

so my question is, since iam only using a single line of the 220v power source would my electric meter still count my electrical consumption?

this is what my electric meter looks like
http://static.flickr.com/6/9849017_2cae763a1d_m.jpg"
 
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First, yes, the meter will count the power useage.

Second, you are violating safety codes by using the water faucet piping as your power ground. It is a serious safety hazard, and you need to stop doing it immediately. You could hurt yourself or someone else pretty easily.
 
Oh, and third, don't you think it's a little, um, not well thought out to post a picture of your electric meter, with the power company's name and the serial number of the meter visible, and ask us "Hey, am I getting away with not paying for my power?!" :rolleyes:
 
berkeman is correct, you are risking your life (and the life of other people who use water systems connected to your own) by using Earth ground for return current. Your power company has equipment which can detect the imbalance in the return current, and will probably be sending a representative to your home eventually. You're deliberately creating what is called a "ground fault," something power companies do their best to eliminate.

- Warren
 
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just used that picture as an example its not my electric meter, may I ask what could be the risk in using water pipes as ground?
 
Since Earth ground and neutral are tied together only in your home's distribution panel, you stand the risk of having a potentially large voltage between Earth ground and neutral, particularly if you are pushing a lot of current through Earth ground. This can cause people to get shocked when they touch things like the cabinets of appliances (which are connected to Earth ground) or the metal surrounds of light fixtures, etc.

- Warren
 
really? never thought about that, would that explain why everytime I touch my computer case I get grounded? in my room I have a strong magnetic field.
 
You get a discernable shock from touching your computer case, and don't find that odd or potentially dangerous? :rolleyes:

- Warren
 
Just in case it's not clear: The bottom line is that the electric company will still measure your current just like normal, but you're putting your life at risk.

- Warren
 
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Had to chime in. Years ago, it was common practice to ground to water pipes. But that was before people realized the hazards. As a child (around 5 I think) while bare foot, I turned on the outside water faucet and got a good shock. That was because the water pipe ground was not really ground. It made an impression; so no Water Pipe Grounds for me.
 
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that was also what other appliances like washing machines, electric ovens suggested to ground the metal case.
 

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