Can we calculate the rolling resistance coefficient theoretically?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the theoretical calculation of the rolling resistance coefficient of a body, specifically seeking a formula that relates this coefficient to physical and material properties such as elasticity, radius, and density, without relying on experimental data.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there are established formulas to calculate rolling resistance based on material properties, expressing frustration over the lack of theoretical resources compared to experimental ones.
  • Another participant clarifies the distinction between static friction, dynamic friction, and rolling resistance, emphasizing the deformation aspect of rolling resistance.
  • There is a misunderstanding regarding terminology, with one participant asserting that "rolling friction" is not a recognized term, suggesting that the focus should be on rolling resistance instead.
  • A later reply confirms the intent to discuss rolling resistance and mentions the assumption that the calculation should focus on resistance due to compression or deformation of the surface.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of a theoretical formula for calculating rolling resistance. There is a mix of clarifications regarding terminology and the nature of the inquiry, but no agreement on the theoretical basis for rolling resistance calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the terminology used and the definitions of rolling resistance versus rolling friction. The discussion highlights a lack of clarity on whether a purely theoretical approach exists without experimental validation.

Souhardya Nandi
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I was wondering that if rolling resistance is basically caused by slight deformation of a body, we must have formulas in place to relate it to the physical and material properties of a body. But when I went ravaging for it in library or internet, everything was experimental. I wished to know from all fellow PFians if you have knowledge of any formula which can calculate the rolling resistance coefficient of a body from elasticity,radius,density, etc. without any experimentation whatsoever ?
 
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What's rolling friction? There is static friction (not slipping), dynamic friction (slipping), and rolling resistance (deformation of the rolling body as it moves)...
 
berkeman said:
What's rolling friction? There is static friction (not slipping), dynamic friction (slipping), and rolling resistance (deformation of the rolling body as it moves)...
You misunderstood my question, sir. I am not asking what rolling friction is. I am asking if there is an existing formula to find the rolling friction coefficient of a body from its material properties without any form of experimentation. Do reply if you can.
 
Souhardya Nandi said:
You misunderstood my question, sir. I am not asking what rolling friction is. I am asking if there is an existing formula to find the rolling friction coefficient of a body from its material properties without any form of experimentation. Do reply if you can.
I understood the question, but your terminology may have a problem. There is no such thing as rolling friction (except for bearing friction maybe). Do you mean that you want to understand if Rolling Resistance can be calculated?

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