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Hello Chiro,

Could I ask you a question? You have been very helpful in the past.

I am trying to quantify the difference between two discrete distributions. I have been reading online and there seems to be a few different ways such as a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test and a chi squared test.

My first question is which of these is the correct method for comparing the distributions below?

The distributions are discrete distributions with 24 bins.

My second question is that, it pretty obvious looking at the distributions that they will be statistically significantly different, but is there a method to quantify how different they are? I'm not sure, but a percentage or distance perhaps?

I've been told that if you use a two sample Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, a measure of how different the distributions are will be the p-value. Is that correct?

http://www.mathworks.co.uk/help/stats/kstest2.html

I appreciate your help and comments

Kind Regards

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What attribute specifically are you trying to see the difference in?

The Chi-Square test acts like a lot like a 2-norm (think of Pythagoras Theorem) for an n-dimensional vector in the way that you get an analog of "distance" between two vectors.

If you know some kind of attribute (even if its qualitative, you can find a way to give a quantitative description with further clarification), then you can mould a norm or a test-statistic in that manner.
 
Hi,

Well I developed a model which simulates car journeys. The distribution of the arrival times home in the evening simulated by the model is "different" than the actual distribution of the arrival times home observed in actual real world data. The model appears to be not that accurate.

What I ideally would like to say is that the distribution produced by the model is some percentage different from the the real world distribution.

Would a Chi squared or Kolmogorov-Smirnov test quantify the difference?

What would you recommend in this case?

Can these tests be used for discrete data? The times are rounded to the nearest hour.

What would you think of summing up the sum up the point wise absolute value of the differences between the two distributions. Would that be a good idea?

abs( Data_bin1_model - Data_bin1_data) + abs( Data_bin2_model - Data_bin2_data) + ...+bs( Data_bin24_model - Data_bin24_data) =

I'd prefer to use a statistical test if there was suitable available.

Thank you for your help.
 
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I think you will want to go with something like a Pearson Chi-square Goodness-Of-Fit test given what you have said above.
 
Hi,

I really struggling with this. Is the P-value form the Chi squared test the percentage difference between the 2 distributions? why did you choose the Chi squared test over the KS test?

Thank you
 
Its not a percentage difference but instead a probability corresponding to some variance where p-value = P(chi-square^2 > x) for some x where the x corresponds to the test-statistic (i.e. the X^2 test statistic).

Basically the larger the deviation, the smaller the chance that the two distributions are equal and the larger the deviation, the smaller the p-value.