Can You Find the Area of an Irregular Square with Given Side Lengths?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of an irregular quadrilateral, initially referred to as an "irregular square," with given side lengths. Participants explore the implications of the shape's irregularity and the necessity of additional information, such as angles, to calculate the area accurately.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants question the validity of calling the shape a square given the differing side lengths. Others suggest that knowing the angles is crucial for determining the area. There is also a mention of approximating the area using a rectangle's dimensions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the need for more information to proceed. Some have offered potential methods for approximation, while others highlight the limitations of the available data.

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There is a lack of information regarding the angles of the quadrilateral, which is essential for accurate area calculation. The term "irregular square" is also questioned, prompting further exploration of the shape's properties.

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Hi,

How do you solve for the area of irregular square. What's the formula? For example. A square has the following 4 sides:

side a: 11.83 meters
side b: 38.74 meters
side c: 12.00 meters
side d: 36.02 meters

What is the total area? Thanks.
 
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Well, it is not a square, and you need to know the angles.

I guess it's trying to be a rectangle if a is opposite c, and the angles are as close as possible to right-angles.
Then the shape will cover the maximum possible area for the sides - this what you mean?
Or do you mean any old tetragon?
http://www.mathopenref.com/tetragon.html
 
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The area of an irregular quadrilateral is

[tex]A= \sqrt{(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)(s-d)-abcd\cdot\cos^2{\frac{\alpha +\gamma}{2}}}[/tex]

where a,b,c,d are the sides. s is the semi-perimeter and [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\gamma[/itex] are any two opposite angles.
 
@Blandongstein: awesome first post, welcome to PF.
Unfortunately we are not supplied with any angles ... so more information is needed from stglyde.

I was intrigued by the description as a "irregular square" ... another common formulation is to inscribe the tetragon/quadrilateral inside a circle for example. If we know the constraints on how squashed the shape can be, we can answer the question.
 
Simon Bridge said:
@Blandongstein: awesome first post, welcome to PF.
Unfortunately we are not supplied with any angles ... so more information is needed from stglyde.

I was intrigued by the description as a "irregular square" ... another common formulation is to inscribe the tetragon/quadrilateral inside a circle for example. If we know the constraints on how squashed the shape can be, we can answer the question.

I just want to get the approximate area and I think it is easy by simply multiplying 12 x 37 or 444 so I'm satisfied. Thanks for the help.
 
There you go you see - not enough information was supplied.
The area must be pretty close to rectangular for that approximation to work.
But if, say, the angle between side a and side b is small, then a better approximation would be for a triangle. See why you got such complicated answers?

Oh well. Good luck.
 

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