Canonical Commutation Relation Explained?

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The Canonical Commutation Relation involves the Pauli matrices and their properties in quantum mechanics. Participants seek comprehensive resources, suggesting books like Messiah's for in-depth understanding. The discussion highlights the complexity of expressions involving Pauli matrices, particularly the trace of products of these matrices. The trace can be simplified using anti-commutation relations and the cyclic property of the trace. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in quantum mechanics concepts and calculations.
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what is it? i need to know everything about it. i know it encompasses a lot of different stuff but yea if someone could point me to a book or webpage that explains it thoroughly.

additionally what does this equal

\sigma_{\mu}\sigma_{\alpha}\sigma_{\alpha}\sigma_{\mu}

those are pauli matrices btw. alpha is just an arbitrary index to differentiate it from the \mu index
 
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ice109 said:
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additionally what does this equal

\sigma_{\mu}\sigma_{\alpha}\sigma_{\alpha}\sigma_{\mu}

some four by four matrix that depends on all the indices. The expression doesn't get any simpler than that... are you sure you don't maybe want the value of the trace? that is easily simplified.
 
ice109 said:
what is it? i need to know everything about it. i know it encompasses a lot of different stuff but yea if someone could point me to a book or webpage that explains it thoroughly.

...probably any QM book. Try Messiah's book.
 
olgranpappy said:
some four by four matrix that depends on all the indices. The expression doesn't get any simpler than that... are you sure you don't maybe want the value of the trace? that is easily simplified.

what's the identity?
 
ice109 said:
what's the identity?

You mean, you want to know the RHS of the equation
<br /> Tr(\sigma_\alpha\sigma_\beta\sigma_\gamma\sigma_\delta)=?<br />

You can figure it out by commuting one of the sigma matrices on the far left all the way to the right (using the *anti*commutation relations for sigma matrices) and then using the cyclic property of the trace to get it back. This gives you an equation for the trace of four sigma matrices in terms of the trace of two sigma matrices. The trace of two sigma matrices can be then figured out in the same way. E.g.
<br /> Tr(\sigma_i \sigma_j)=Tr(-\sigma_i\sigma_j+2\delta_{ij})=-Tr(\sigma_i\sigma_j)+4<br />
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks

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