Can't integrate the surface area of revolving curve the normal way

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The problem involves finding the area of the surface generated by revolving the curve defined by the equation x = (e^y + e^{-y})/2 around the y-axis, specifically for the interval 0 ≤ y ≤ ln(2).

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integration process for calculating the surface area, with attempts to simplify the integral and address missing factors. There are questions about how to proceed after reaching a certain point in the integration.

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Some participants have provided insights into the integration steps and expressed frustration with the complexity of working with exponential functions. There is an ongoing exploration of how to break down the integrals and clarify the setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note issues with missing limits in the integral and the appearance of factors that complicate the integration process. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the exponential terms involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the area of the surface generated by revolving the curve

x=\frac{e^y + e^{-y} }{2}

from 0 \leq y \leq ln(2) about the y-axis.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried the normal route first...

g(y) = x = \frac{1}{2} (e^y + e^{-y})
g'(y) = dx/dy = \frac{1}{2} (e^y - e^{-y})

S = \int 2\pi \frac{1}{2} (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{1+(e^y - e^{-y})^2} dy

S = \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{\frac{1}{4}e^{2y}+\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{4}e^{-2y} } dy

S = \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{\frac{1}{4} (e^y+e^{-y})^2} dy

S = \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y}) \frac {1}{2} (e^y+e^{-y}) dy

But then I got stuck here...

S = \frac{1}{2} \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y})^2 dy

How should I proceed? Thanks in advance.
 
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aleksbooker said:

Homework Statement



Find the area of the surface generated by revolving the curve

x=\frac{e^y + e^{-y} }{2}

from 0 \leq y \leq ln(2) about the y-axis.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried the normal route first...

g(y) = x = \frac{1}{2} (e^y + e^{-y})
g'(y) = dx/dy = \frac{1}{2} (e^y - e^{-y})

S = \int 2\pi \frac{1}{2} (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{1+(e^y - e^{-y})^2} dy

I think this should be
<br /> S = \int_0^{\ln 2} 2\pi \frac 12 (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{1 + \frac14 (e^y - e^{-y})^2}\,dy<br />

S = \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{\frac{1}{4}e^{2y}+\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{4}e^{-2y} } dy

And now missing factor of 1/4 has appeared (but the limits are still missing).

S = \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y}) \sqrt{\frac{1}{4} (e^y+e^{-y})^2} dy

S = \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y}) \frac {1}{2} (e^y+e^{-y}) dyBut then I got stuck here...

S = \frac{1}{2} \pi \int (e^y + e^{-y})^2 dy

How should I proceed? Thanks in advance.

(e^y + e^{-y})^2 = e^{2y} + 2 + e^{-2y}...
 
@pasmith, thanks for your response.

I forgot how much I hate working with e. Thanks for pointing out how simple that really was.

Here's what I was doing:

S = \frac{1}{2}\pi \int (e^{2y} + 2 + e^{-2y}) dy

Then, breaking it up into three separate integrals and working with just the first one...

S = \frac{1}{2}\pi \int (e^{2y})

S = \frac{1}{2}\pi \frac{1}{2y+1} e^{2y+1} from 0 to ln(2)
 
aleksbooker said:
@pasmith, thanks for your response.

I forgot how much I hate working with e. Thanks for pointing out how simple that really was.

Here's what I was doing:

S = \frac{1}{2}\pi \int (e^{2y} + 2 + e^{-2y}) dy

Then, breaking it up into three separate integrals and working with just the first one...

S = \frac{1}{2}\pi \int (e^{2y})

S = \frac{1}{2}\pi \frac{1}{2y+1} e^{2y+1} from 0 to ln(2)

No.
<br /> \int e^{ay}\,dy = \frac{e^{ay}}a<br />
 

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