Capacitance concentric spherical shells

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The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of two concentric spherical shells with different surface charge densities, where Sa = -Sb. The main challenge is understanding how capacitance is defined when the charge densities are equal but not the absolute charges. Participants express confusion over the relationship between electric field, electric potential, and how to measure capacitance in this context. There is also ambiguity regarding the configuration of the system and how the charge Q is applied, which affects the capacitance calculation. The problem's complexity leads to uncertainty about the correct approach to find the electric field and potential both between and outside the shells.
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Homework Statement


Given two concentric spherical metal shells, with radii a and b (a < b), and surface charge densities Sa and Sb.
Find the capacitance if Sa = - Sb.


Homework Equations



C = Q/V

The Attempt at a Solution


I would know how to solve this if the absolute values of the charges were equal, but here the densities are equal and not the charges. I don't know how the capaticance is defined in this case. How do I solve this?
 
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What is the electric field between the shells?

What is the relationship between electric field and electric potential?

[Edit: Oh, and I just realized that you'll also have to calculate the electric potential is outside both shells too, since the absolute values of the charges are not equal. So what is the electric field and/or the electric potential outside of the outer shell?]

[Second edit: Thinking about this problem a little more, the problem might be a little ambiguous. I think the answer depends on which shell the charge is applied. I.e. in the C = Q/V, is the charge Q applied to shell a with the charge on shell b following it's own charge accordingly, or is the charge applied to shell b with shell a following accordingly. In other words, I think it matters how Q is defined. How does the measured charge get to the system. By what mechanism/configuration is it that Q is being measured, and thus the capacitance. Is there a wire attached to shell a that can measure the current)and some hidden mechanism on shell b that ensures the σb = -σa relationship, or is it the other way around (swapping a and b)? Or, is Q defined as the net charge on both spheres?

By all that I mean it can be looked at the following way. When you measure the capacitance of something you measure it between two terminals. Say between two wires. But the problem statement didn't specify where these wires are. Is one wire attached to each shell? And if so, is the extra change (that keeps the σb = -σa relationship) flowing in/out of shell a or shell b? Or is one of the wires out at infinity, similar to a single-shell, spherical capacitor? ... I'm starting not to like this problem. :frown: ]
 
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Hi,

I'll ask if they could have meant equal charges instead of equal densities.
I'll let you know.
Thank you for your time.
 
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