Career and job search (teaching or engineering work)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around job searching in the fields of teaching and engineering, particularly focusing on concerns about a potential scam related to a job offer and seeking advice on applying for engineering positions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about receiving a job offer from an engineering firm that requests sensitive personal information without an interview, questioning the legitimacy of the offer.
  • Another participant warns against providing personal information such as bank details, suggesting that such requests are indicative of a scam.
  • A different participant notes that while personal information is necessary once hired, it is suspicious to request it during the application process.
  • Several participants provide advice on applying for engineering jobs, suggesting using job portals and websites like LinkedIn, CareerBuilder, and Monster.com.
  • One participant requests more information about the job seeker’s background to offer tailored advice, asking about location, educational background, work experience, and any unusual circumstances affecting their job search.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the request for sensitive information without an interview is suspicious and potentially a scam. However, there is no consensus on the best approach for applying to engineering jobs, as different participants provide varying advice based on limited information.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the legitimacy of job offers and the appropriate level of personal information to share during the application process. There are also limitations in the advice given due to the lack of detailed personal information from the job seeker.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals seeking jobs in teaching or engineering, especially those navigating online job applications and concerned about potential scams.

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Hello I am new here lived in New York with my 2 kids and looking for a teaching job. I applied online but can't get response from them. I have received an email yesterday stated that they are going to give me an opportunity an engineering firm. They want me to fill a form with my all details including my bank details etc. Should I trust them and provide all info without any interview.
 
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stevejames09 said:
Hello I am new here lived in New York with my 2 kids and looking for a teaching job. I applied online but can't get response from them. I have received an email yesterday stated that they are going to give me an opportunity an engineering firm. They want me to fill a form with my all details including my bank details etc. Should I trust them and provide all info without any interview.
<<Emphasis added.>> Is the second "they" (engineering job) totally unrelated to the first (teaching job), or are they the same (e.g., the same recruitment agency handling both)? Regardless, the only personal information you should be providing on a job application form is name, address, phone, and email (along with educational and work experience, of course). No social security numbers, no bank accounts, no credit card accounts, no income statements, ... Those are indicative of a scam.
 
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stevejames09 said:
They want me to fill a form with my all details including my bank details etc. Should I trust them and provide all info without any interview.
NO.

NO!
 
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Once you are hired they will need personal information in order to do tax withholding, paycheck direct deposit, insurance (maybe) etc. Until then, just leave those spaces blank. As @CrysPhys says, even having those on the "form" is kind of suspicious.

EDIT: ...says the guy who has worked for the same company for 40 years. I have no idea what is "normal" on an application these days.
 
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Thank you for responding to my thread and guiding me. I am also looking for engineering opportunity any regards how can I apply for engineering job.
 
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stevejames09 said:
Thank you for responding to my thread and guiding me. I am also looking for engineering opportunity any regards how can I apply for engineering job.

You should apply to the companies job portal where you can find relevant jobs according to your needs. And you can also try these websites LinkedIn, CareerBuilder, and Monster.com. You have to create a profile add or create your CV then apply.
 
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stevejames09 said:
Thank you for responding to my thread and guiding me. I am also looking for engineering opportunity any regards how can I apply for engineering job.
More info about you would be needed for more useful guidance. So far, all we have is that you live in NY, have two kids, and are looking for a teaching or engineering job.

E.g.,
* Is it NY state or NY City? Do you need to stay put, or are you willing to relocate?
* What are your educational background and work experience so far?
* Any unusual circumstances (e.g., did you drop out of the work force for an extended period to raise a family and are now re-entering the work force)?
 

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