Carrying Uncertainty in Math: A Paradox?

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the handling of uncertainty in mathematical calculations, particularly when it comes to rounding intermediate results. The textbook advises against rounding during intermediate steps to maintain accuracy, which seems contradictory to the rules for significant figures. Participants highlight that rounding too early can obscure the uncertainty inherent in measurements, leading to potentially inaccurate final results. It is emphasized that while intermediate calculations should retain precision, the final result can be rounded appropriately, along with a clear indication of uncertainty. Overall, the key takeaway is to preserve precision in calculations and only round the final answer while clearly stating its uncertainty.
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Ok so my textbook explains all the rules to carry the inherent uncertainty in measurements through mathematic calculations (the result of an addition must have as many decimal places as the term with the least decimal places, etc, it also explains significant figures etc...) and at the very end of the detailed explanation it warns us that we shouldn't round off results in intermediate steps because it will affect the final answer.

That is what I don't get at all and sounds contradictory to me maybe because of the wording the book is using to explain all of this.

Say we are trying to solve a long problem and we have an intermediate step (out of many), say an addition or what have you, 75.382 + 31.2 (disregard units), following the rules for carrying the uncertainty through calculations we should write 106.6 as a result right? and carry this result into the next step of the solving process. This to me is just that, carrying the uncertainty, it's not rounding off for the sake of rounding off!

If we take 106.582 as a result for the previous addition and input this into the next step we will be losing track of the uncertainty right?

Someone please make this clear because it looks like a paradox to me according to the book's wording.
 
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What they mean is: suppose you have 75.382 + 31.2 + 7.24 + 42.519. You would add them all up without rounding and get 156.341. Then you apply the rounding rule and round it off to 1 decimal place to get 156.3.

If you round off after each step, the result might depend on the order in which you add them. But it shouldn't depend on the order, right?
 
If you want to give an uncertainty for your measurement, you should do this in a separate way. While it is obvious that 12.4 has an uncertainty which is at least of the order of 0.1: How precise is 1200? Is it "something between 1150 and 1250"? Or is it "something between 1199,5 and 1200,5"?

As you don't want to increase your uncertainty via rounding, try to keep a lot of digits in intermediate calculations and evaluate your uncertainty with another calculation. Round the final value to a useful number of digits, and add its uncertainty if you know it. 1200 \pm 1 is the usual way to present those results: The measured value is 1200, the uncertainty (usually the standard deviation, but it depends a bit on the research field) is 1.
 
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