Catenary - rope hanging between poles

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The discussion focuses on using Newton's method to approximate the value of the constant 'a' in the equation y = a cosh(x/a), which describes the shape of a rope hanging between two poles. The distance between the poles is given as 400 ft, with a sag of 30 ft. The equations provided relate 'a' to the length of the rope and the sag. The user expresses uncertainty about applying Newton's method effectively and questions the correctness of their function f(a) = a cosh(b/a) - a - S. They also mention discrepancies between their results and the expected answer from the textbook, indicating confusion about the iterations and the final value of 'a'.
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Homework Statement



Problem is regarding approximating the value of a in y= a cosh(x/a) using Newton's method, and then use a to find the length of the rope.
That equation represents the curve formed by a rope hanging with it's ends attached to poles at a distance 2b.
(cosh() = hyperbolic cosine)

distance between poles = 2b = 400 ft.
sag = S = 30 ft.

Homework Equations



(previously proven eqns)

L = 2 a sinh(b/a)
where L is the length of the rope
a is a physical constant
and 2b is the distance between the poles that the rope is hanging from

S = a cosh(b/a) - a
where S is the sag (vertical distance between highest and lowest points on the rope)
a is a physical constant
2b is distance between poles

The Attempt at a Solution



I am really not sure how to do this, as I do not know how/why Newton's method could be used to get a value for a.
Also, they gave a hint, a clip from the Calc book I am reading: "[Hint: First let u = 200/a]"
 
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How about f(a) = a cosh(b/a) - a - S
 


Is that correct? I didnt put that under at attempted solution because I thought it was not even right since I tried Newton's method on it and it wasn't really homing in on a particular number, or perhaps I messed up with something. I also thought I did it wrong because, first of all the book did not give a hint to how many iterations to do and my answer, after about 4 iterations, was 470 and the answer in the book was about 404 something.
 
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Is that your answer for the value of a, or the value of L? Seems to me like it should work. Maybe you should post your attempt
 
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