Center of mass of a curved surface

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Homework Statement


Let ##\Sigma## be surface given as ##f(x,y)=\frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2)## above circle ##K((0,0),a)## for ##a>0##. Calculate the center of mass.


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If you are not familiar with ##K((0,0),a)## , that is a circle in point ##(0,0)## with radius a.

The Attempt at a Solution



I would attempt to get a solution if I would be able to imagine ##\Sigma##. If I understand correctly, ##f(x,y)## is also a circle with radius ##\sqrt{2a}## ? or...?

My question here is...: What does the fact, that the ##f(x,y)## is above a circle tell me? O.o
 
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I think the surface is meant as 3-dimensional object, so you can write $$z=f(x,y)=\frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2)$$ That's a [strike]cone[/strike] paraboloid. The center of mass is trivial for the x- and y-coordinate, and the z-coordinate is interesting.

Edit: fixed, thanks.
 
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mfb said:
I think the surface is meant as 3-dimensional object, so you can write $$z=f(x,y)=\frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2)$$ That's a cone. The center of mass is trivial for the x- and y-coordinate, and the z-coordinate is interesting.

Actually, it's a paraboloid.
 
Ok, if the surface is 3-dimensional than i can write ##x=rcos\varphi ## and ##y=rsin\varphi ## for ##r\in \left [ 0,a \right ]## and ##\varphi \in \left [ 0,2\pi \right ]##

Therefore ##f(r,\varphi )=\frac{1}{2r}r^2=\frac{r}{2}##

So ##z=\frac{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r^2}{4}drd\varphi }{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r}{2}drd\varphi }=\frac{a}{3}##

Or is this not so easy? :D
 
Why did you replace a by r in the denominator for f?
And I think there are factors of r missing in the integration (r dr dφ).
 
Blah, I don't know. I shouldn't have done that!

##x=rcos\varphi ## and ##y=rsin\varphi ## for ##r\in \left [ 0,a \right ]## and ##\varphi \in \left [ 0,2\pi \right ]##

Therefore ##f(r,\varphi )=\frac{1}{2a}r^2##

So ##z=\frac{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r^4}{4a^2}drd\varphi }{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r^2}{2a}drd\varphi }=\frac{3}{10}a##
 
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