Recent discussions question the existence of black holes, with observations of the Milky Way's center suggesting a massive object with the mass of millions of stars confined to a small area, pointing to black holes as the only plausible explanation. Research indicates that similar massive black holes are found at the centers of other galaxies as well. The conversation invites scrutiny of a specific paper challenging black hole existence, prompting participants to consider alternative theories. Despite skepticism, the prevailing evidence continues to support the existence of black holes in astrophysics. The debate remains active, highlighting the complexity of understanding these cosmic phenomena.